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Hi everyone, im new to the forum so if this question's been asked and answered please forgive me. When Orochimaru says that Itatchi is stronger than him back in ep. 80 (81?) did he mean before of after losing his arms? Because if he meant before losing his Jitsus, Itatchi must be one hard core mofo. Orochimaru survived fighting the 3rd and 2 Sannin at the same time without his precious arms.
Well its difficult because Itachi says to Kisame that Jiraiya is stronger than him, Orochimaru says Itachi is stronger than him yet they are both Sannins so i would assume that he ment that after he lost his arms or Itachi was downplaying his abilities.
when orochimaru said that he was afraid of itachi, he meant that before he lost his arms. we know this he talks about akatsuki and how he left that organization after itachi joined.
having a secondary character, like jiraiya or tsunade, be stronger than a main villian is stupid. if jiraiya were stronger than itachi, then it would nullify the whole point of "only another sharingan user can defeat me" which is the main reason why itachi was introduced as such a strong character.
itachi is the strongest and we'll never see him lose to anyone except to sasuke.
itachi didn't say jiraiya was stronger than him. kisame said that jiraiya is stronger than him and that jiraiya was at itachi's level.
i think oro meant itachi could have kicked his ass even before losing his arms. oro just wants the sharingan and he coulda just gotten them from itachi when they were in akatsuki together. but itachi was just beyond oro's reach so that's why he went after sasuke.
oro did defeat the sandaime in some way...but he was extremely old. gai-sensei praises youth for a reason. oro also did fight the sannins but he retreated cuz he knows he woulda lost if he stayed.
Itachi, as mentioned before, can only be defeated by a Sharingan user. This is obviously one of the reasons as to why to Orochimaru wants to aquire the Sharingan by taking over Sasukes body. With them I have no doubt that he could defeat Itachi. However, as it stands now, Orochimaru being without his Jutsus and all, Itachi would easily be able to defeat Orochimaru.
i don't know if oro really wants to defeat itachi. i think he wants the sharingan to be able to learn every jutsu in the world. cuz that's what he defines as the better ninja: whoever knows the most jutsus.
So the only one able to deafeat Itachi is Sasuke 'cause he is a "Pure" Sharingan user ?
Wonder if other Sharingan users remain somewhere else ....
Mutut: You cant say Itachi is the strongest just becasue he said only sharingan users can defeat him,if thats the case then he would go and kick jiraya ass and kidnapp Naurot since ONLY sharingan user can defeat him.
Itachi hasn show anything but playing with some jounins when he kicks Jirayas or Tsunadas ass then is he the strongest. Oro is weaker than them cause he is a freak wo is afriad sharingan and the other sannins arent afraid of it.
You're correct on the point of Orochimaru seeking to master all Jutsus, and subsequently become the "Ultimate Being." However, I am rather certain Orochimaru sees Itachi, and Akatsuki, as a threat and competition. Hence why he tried to remove Naruto-kun from the chessboard. Naruto-kun might become an extremely important piece for Akatsuki.Quote:
i don't know if oro really wants to defeat itachi. i think he wants the sharingan to be able to learn every jutsu in the world.
As kai has said 'Itachi, as mentioned before, can only be defeated by a Sharingan user.'
Or possibly gai, since he knows how to fight against Sharingan users.
I thought he said only another Sharingan user could defeat him in the conext of once he had started his mangekou (sp?) sharingan technique... that was my understanding of what he said.
Gai does know how to fight a Sharingan user since he's been training to defeat Kakashi but just because he knows how to fight one doesn't mean he can actually BEAT one. Remember, Gai and Kakashi are on the same level. Itachi can only defeated by a Sharingan user. Kakashi went up against Itachi and Kakashi lost. That means that there's one other person who can take him down and thats Sasuke, the last remaining member of the Uchicha clan.Quote:
Originally posted by: Deezbeez
As kai has said 'Itachi, as mentioned before, can only be defeated by a Sharingan user.'
Or possibly gai, since he knows how to fight against Sharingan users.
Yeah thats what Itachi meant but some people thinkt that he cant lose to a person who doesnt have a sharingan.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
I thought he said only another Sharingan user could defeat him in the conext of once he had started his mangekou (sp?) sharingan technique... that was my understanding of what he said.
itachi is the strongest char. introduced in the anime thus far.
i never said that itachi can flat out kick jiraiya's ass, itachi's is just a bit stronger.Quote:
Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
Mutut: You cant say Itachi is the strongest just becasue he said only sharingan users can defeat him,if thats the case then he would go and kick jiraya ass and kidnapp Naurot since ONLY sharingan user can defeat him.
Itachi hasn show anything but playing with some jounins when he kicks Jirayas or Tsunadas ass then is he the strongest. Oro is weaker than them cause he is a freak wo is afriad sharingan and the other sannins arent afraid of it.
omg... don't get into this, it is obvious and proven that gai can't beat itachi with his lame method of fighting sharingan users.Quote:
Originally posted by: Deezbeez
As kai has said 'Itachi, as mentioned before, can only be defeated by a Sharingan user.'
Or possibly gai, since he knows how to fight against Sharingan users.
having sharingan is an advantage in a fight no matter what. kakashi and gai are a good example as to why only a sharingan user can defeat another sharingan user. gai had to come up with some stupid method to try to fight against kakashi's ghetto sharingan. it's pretty obvious that not a lot of people can fight like gai can, thus further strengthening the point of what itachi said.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
I thought he said only another Sharingan user could defeat him in the conext of once he had started his mangekou (sp?) sharingan technique... that was my understanding of what he said.
he can't.Quote:
Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
Yeah thats what Itachi meant but some people thinkt that he cant lose to a person who doesnt have a sharingan.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
I thought he said only another Sharingan user could defeat him in the conext of once he had started his mangekou (sp?) sharingan technique... that was my understanding of what he said.
I wouldnt go as far as to say that he flatly CANNOT be beaten, maybe that is true at this point in time, but the leader of the Akatsuki has yet to be reaveled, and i doubt missing-nin of that class will follow some weak panzy.Quote:
Originally posted by: Mut@t@
he can't.Quote:
Originally posted by: Hakeem_21
Yeah thats what Itachi meant but some people thinkt that he cant lose to a person who doesnt have a sharingan.Quote:
Originally posted by: DB_Hunter
I thought he said only another Sharingan user could defeat him in the conext of once he had started his mangekou (sp?) sharingan technique... that was my understanding of what he said.
(and from what i would like to see, which makes sense everyone will too, Sasuke "should" be the only person able to defete itachi, it is his only reason for exsistance.)
wow mutata owned everyone in this thread ;P
itachi cant lose to any character that has been introduced so far. he is the strongest.
Mutata looks like hes out for blood. Duck and cover!
Mutata: Itachi hasnt shown anything to considred to be strongest so far the only thing he has done is playing with some Jounins.
When he shows something more that for example kicking a sannins ass then will he be strongest.
hmm maybe you forgot about that orochimaru says he is stronger than him and when he broke out of jiraiyas frog stomach thingy with a jutsu jiraiya hadnt seen before, remember when he went "what is this black flame?"