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i dont like sakura because she is the type of girl i wouldent like in real life. no one likes those weak, obsessed with guys they cant have, type of girl who thinks her existence depends on some dude. btw when i say weak i dont mean physically, for the slow people here.
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Originally posted by: Thunder_Pants
sounds to me like your definition of a filler episode is any episode that can't keep your interest due to lack of action
Sounds to me like you don't read people's posts before offering an opinion.
allow me to aid you:
Nowhere did I say I considered no action to be filler. In fact, I often prefer the story driven episodes to the battle ones.Quote:
Originally posted by: Kagari
In 112 episodes, I've seen only 2 episodes that I can consider 'filler'. (Which to me, does barely anything to advance the story, and contains redundant and useless information.)
Just because the series deviates from the manga also does not mean that it is filler.
Kishimoto has much more freedom with the medium of television, and therefore he uses it. Sure, the manga was written first, but you children must come to accept that the anime is a vast improvement on the story and the characters, and you must also accept this as being the story of Naruto, not a 'representation of the manga' as so many of you believe.
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Nowhere did I say I considered no action to be filler. In fact, I often prefer the story driven episodes to the battle ones.
Just because the series deviates from the manga also does not mean that it is filler.
Kishimoto has much more freedom with the medium of television, and therefore he uses it. Sure, the manga was written first, but you children must come to accept that the anime is a vast improvement on the story and the characters, and you must also accept this as being the story of Naruto, not a 'representation of the manga' as so many of you believe.[/quote]
'Kishimoto has much more freedom with the medium of television?" From what I know the manga-ka has controll over their manga, not the TV version so how could he have the medium of television? He dosn't really have much to do with the TV version, so he can't "use it". Whatever happens in the anime that deviates from the manga was created by the staff at the animation studio, not from Kishimoto - which is probably why people call it a filler, and the arc about the Tea village was a filler arc, being that it had nothing to do with the manga, and [most likely] whatever happened in there won't apply to manga story it went back to since it was just put there to space out the time between where the manga is and the anime so it dosn't catch up. as for saying the anime is "being the story of Naruto" the anime is Naruto story, but I think it's more correct to say that the manga is the story of Naruto because the story was originally created by Kishimoto and it is his work and his ideas so what happens in the manga is the original story and the story of Naruto. The anime is a animated representation of the manga with some new things or differences added in. Its not made to be the real "story of Naruto" it's made when a manga is popular and an animation company thinks it can make money off of it as well as pull in more people to read the manga if they started with the anime. The original is the manga, the anime takes most of its elements from the manga, therefore the "story of Naruto" is the manga since the story of Naruto is in the hands of Kishimoto, not anime directors or what have you. ^^
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Originally posted by: Cyrano
Sakura is one of the rare genins who actually act like a 13 years old. It gives the serie a dose emotional realism that counterbalance all those fearless and overpowered kids.
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Originally posted by: KaneInferno
With out the weak, there can't be the strong.
Now I don't necessarily idolize Sakura, I just wish they would have developed her character alot more than what it is. I haven't read the manga, so I don't know if she ever gets better, but I can only hope. I dislike an absence of character development in any character that shows up regularly.
okay loll this thread turned to big :S
srry =-(
anyway hmm someone said she's just a 12-13 years old girl?
but don't u think of behing a ninja like they do is getting you mature 3204982390 time faster
because if it was of me...seeing blood as they do and seeing ppl DIE as they do
i would grow up very mature ...even at 13years old!!!!
but it's real tho that she doesnt know anything about sasuke
except he's cheap and heartless...(well thats the image he wants ppl to think)
but ..ya she should become more usefull... because except getting flowers for Lee
she doesnt do alot ahah
and hmm ya it was stupid the scene with the boat... ya... i can lift 500 pounds or more!!!!
i can....... ;P
next, someone said that she,s not the one who give emotions??? then who..
because the scene i was the saddest was when sasuke *dyed* vs haku or when she *cuts her hair* (funny and sad)..mostly funny... or when she says her feelings to sasuke...or when she want to protect them... well when naruto protect sakura or sasuke,,,, or sasuke protect them... its not very sad..because they win!!! ahahah
Finally im srry modator for behing rude [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] you know... sakura's my favorite character
and it got me angry when i saw how much ppl hate her ahah (its crazy!!)
Just because they are a ninja dosen't mean that they would mature faster than anyone else, thats up to the person and their characteristic and the events that take place to shape their character, Sakura isn't all that mature, but neither is Naruto at times.
I was the one who mentioned her and giving emotions, first thing, it's up to the viewer to decide what is emotional to them or not, for some they didn't get emotional over that part, probably many since most could assume that the character couldn't die that early on. Yeah she might have helped in that but the true emotional part of that would have been about Sasuke not about Sakura crying, and her hair part, didn't find that emotional at all. And second of all the way you put it is as if it's Sakura's role in the anime to evoke emotion, like she is the only character to do that. Wrong -_-. People can have emotions evoked by Naruto, because of his past, as well as Sasuke and his past, or Tsunades past, and what Rock Lee is going through, as well as Neji's past and what he had to go through, Gaara's past and what he had to go though. All characters can evoke those emotions. Personally I think that other characters, such as Neji, Gaara, Naruto evoked more emotion than Sakura.
And when she told her feeling to Sasuke, thought it was lame, as well as many others that have posted something similar about that part. And yeah she did SAY she WATED to protect them but since she NEVER did ANYTHING to get stronger, it was useless words that she said, which makes her more useless and an unmotivated character.
People will dislike Sakura and continue to disklike Sakura untill the character changes from her present state of being useless, unmotivated, weak and above all Sasuke obsessed.
by the way, know you like Sakura and that's your free choice but people that dislike Sakura also have the choice to dislike her and voice their opinion about that on the forum. =)
Everyo1 own.. okay..
and okay.. i admit that she was kinda being kewl when she cut her hair and made a resolution.. but it is TOTALLY RUINED By the fact that she doesn't follow the resolution..
and as for her maturing.. well... i think other ppl mature way more faster than her.. for example.. naruto,
AND YES she know NOTHI NG about sasuke.. not even about he doesn't have parents, apparently.. because sakura went " naruto is only like that because he have no parent.. and said right sasuke?....
and sasuke being cold to her..? it's only because she's being an idiot infront of him.. always goignn "sasuke sasuke..." and annoying him by saying "you are just being modest, i know you saved me." and the Famous quote above.... i mean actually i respect sasuke for being at least that nice...
and as for sasuke dying geez all she did was screamingly crying stuff.. the emotional part was when sasuke was talking to naruto about his dream and how his body just moved on its own..
^_^ but i m glad at least you admit stuff.. however..
and @kagari.. well.. anime is the representation... first of all they are based on manga... and second of all manga artist doesn't have much to do with production of anime.. and many times.. anime gets ruined by company making their own filler and stuff example:kenshin second OVA(where even the manga artist didn't like, and naruto filler we watched... )
when anime goes off from manga.. usually character's personality change.. and the rules they set up changes.. which makes it unlogical.. and confusing
sakura is a cock sucking bitch. her only role in the anime is to get killed. end of discussion
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Originally posted by: samsonlonghair
Can you honestly say that you've never fallen for someone who would never return your feelings? Can anyone make that claim? Sakura is a well written and very human character. From a literary point of view, she's very interesting. Kishimoto should be commended for creating such an emotional character in a genre that shows no respect for such characters.Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Sakura has no reason to love Sasuke. She's just a little bitch who can't control her hormones, falling for a guy who never showed any signs of being interested in her. Around these parts we call that stupid, not admirable.
Sakura is not a human character and if she is I will now commence crying for humanity's decaying.
And yes I can honestly say that I've never fucking fallen for someone who does not return my feelings.
I have been interested, yes. I have asked people on dates and gotten rejected, yes.
Both of those things are quite normal. However...
BEING FUCKING OBSESSED WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS BARELY SPOKEN TO YOU FOR MORE THAN A YEAR IS -NOT- NORMAL! IT IS MENTAL! AND SAKURA -SUCKS-!
GODDAMNIT
And Kishimoto should definately not be commended for adding this hollow and worthless excuse of a character to the fray other than for us to randomly hate.
Sakura rox your sox.
Neko, when I said more freedom, I meant freedom to play with scenes, characters, music etc.
Television gives the option of sound, full colour, movement and vocals, which = more freedom to play with things.
However, if you're telling me that Kishimoto has no creative control over what goes into the anime, then I will most likely look at things differently. However, I do require some sort of proof, as I refuse to believe he would allow his work to be taken completely out of his hands.
Well, Sakura's obsession with Sasuke, as if it wasn't totally overboard already, just crossed the line at episodes 109-110. Made me wish that she remained knocked cold for another lifetime or two. Just like Sasuke says...it's unsightly. Plus he has already tipped her off that if she wants respect from Sasuke, then train, get stronger, and accomplish something....but no finger lifted. And she also has doubts whether Naruto (who has never failed her at anything) and the other great Genins can bring Sasuke back.
Sakura, you're annoying! even if the world rotated around a person, it wouldn't be you. Ever.
Aramis, you bring up a few very good points, and i agree with most of what you said.
These things are why I like sakura SO much as a character. Think of how much she has to grow when compared to her teammates, and how much she has to learn! While they are all accomplishing big things, gaining power, and growing up...she remains a thirteen year old girl, more concerned over stupid things than what might be truly important. This kind of stage is an important one, and with her intelligence, all she needs is some wisdom to guide her path.
Naruto wants to become hokage, and he's had Jirayia to help him do things on his own, and become a stronger ninja. Sasuke wants to become stronger than his brother, and Orochimaru helped him realize that he can gain the power that he seeks.
and Sakura....wants sasuke. Unfourtunately, there's no one to show her what's truly important, except maybe Sasuke himself (by rejecting her after she poured her heart out) and Naruto (by showing her his strength and honour, and proving to her that she can trust him by going to get sasuke).
They all have their own dreams, but Sakura has to learn what her dreams truly should be.
ya neko your right [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] u know im not perfect!!
but when i meant ...sakura gives emotions.. it was for me.. srry [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img]
but ya naruto past was sad...and sasuke's to hehe, but she is the only one
who shows her emotions (i mean cry out loud) she's good at it tho...to good... ahahah
but miaka you opened my eyes... you are right.. sasuke and naruto are actually very emotional
and (for me) sakura is to complete de trio... because id it was only sasuke,naruto and kakashi it would be kind of empty... they could put another character.. but only on first sight i loved sakura SOOO much...(i really like how she's looking like...(im not in love) i only love anime characters and this one rox ohh and the voices in japenese are soo cool... way better than english ones.. WAY better
ohh and for the mature thing.. i was saying that it is normal to love someone that much when it fights to protect you and you see him get hurt badly to protect you etc... by fightning like that and doing mission as they do i just THINK its okay about their age and *love*.. but i must admit her lovehas turned into obssession... like sasuke was HIS guy and no another girl's one..... she sooo pig headed.. but i like her!!
of course i like kakashi,sasuke,naruto etc
ohhh and im so happy to give my opinion but could peaple stop saying like shes a bit** and more like she should die... why didi they make her... blablablas..... i hate sasuke but he's a part of the anime so who care... if u hate your brother are you saying tro yourself why did *he* made him??? geez come on hehe
by the way every1's opinions own... except for the one who are heartless and rude as i said in the last paragraph
in my opinion, the only one who's truly deeply fallen in love with Sakura is Lee, yes even more than Naruto. Lee is the only one who say this to Sakura "I will protect you till i died", or something like that. Sakura should really go out with a guy like him instead of a guy like Sakuke.
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Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Were it not for your long hair I'd rape you for this.Quote:
Originally posted by: samsonlonghair
Can you honestly say that you've never fallen for someone who would never return your feelings? Can anyone make that claim? Sakura is a well written and very human character. From a literary point of view, she's very interesting. Kishimoto should be commended for creating such an emotional character in a genre that shows no respect for such characters.Quote:
Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Sakura has no reason to love Sasuke. She's just a little bitch who can't control her hormones, falling for a guy who never showed any signs of being interested in her. Around these parts we call that stupid, not admirable.
Sakura is not a human character and if she is I will now commence crying for humanity's decaying.
And yes I can honestly say that I've never fucking fallen for someone who does not return my feelings.
I have been interested, yes. I have asked people on dates and gotten rejected, yes.
Both of those things are quite normal. However...
BEING FUCKING OBSESSED WITH SOMEONE WHO HAS BARELY SPOKEN TO YOU FOR MORE THAN A YEAR IS -NOT- NORMAL! IT IS MENTAL! AND SAKURA -SUCKS-!
GODDAMNIT
And Kishimoto should definately not be commended for adding this hollow and worthless excuse of a character to the fray other than for us to randomly hate.
I couldn't agree with you more Terra - well put. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
and to Kagari I was just saying that I never heard of the manga-ka having much to do with the anime, yes I have heard of times where they got to be part of choosing the voice actors but most of the time, especially if you read the side notes that they put in their manga, they tend to be just like us viewers, wondering what would happen next. I know I have read a number of manga-ka sidenotes where they say their manga is an anime and they are excited to see how the anime will go (as in they have no controll) Also there are things like Kenshin final OVA. Watsuki didn't have anything to do with that. I also read a comment he made about it saying how he didn't exactly like it because it had a sad ending and he dosn't like it. So from the things I have noticed, the manga-ka dosn't have a big role with the anime, is what I meant ^^;
and to Every1_own.. um plenty of other characters have shown their emotions, most of the characters are actually they are always showing different type of emotions, since emotion can be sadness, anger, jealousy, bitterness, hatred, etc. And as for the emotion of sadness, sakura isn't the only one who has cried. I know Naruto has, Sasuke when he was young, Tsunade, Gaara, Rock Lee number of characters have been shown crying.
and umm the one who fights the MOST to protect Sakura is NARUTO and half of the time she dosn't acknowlege it or tought Sasuke did, though good she did finally get it later on, Sasuke isn't really fighting to protect Sakura, as we all know Sasuke fights to get stronger to take revenge. Not like Sasuke 'protects' her as in he cares for her more than just a partner. And when you said it was normal to like someone for that, yes it it was someone who tries to protect you and showes interest such as: Tamahome , Inuyasha, Kenshin...not someone like Sasuke and besides she didn't like him for any reason like that only because he was this 'ohh he's so handsome and cool" -_-
as for the people saying things you don't like to hear...well, believe me, people have been saying those things for a long time and seems they won't stop, since that's their view on Sakura [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] guess you just have to ignore those types of comments.
look at all you people putting in more than 2 seconds of thought or more than a couple of sentences. too funny.
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i was talking about how people are going overboard with love/hate/romance garbage between anime characters...
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Originally posted by: Mut@t@
look at all you people putting in more than 2 seconds of thought or more than a couple of sentences. too funny.
...ahem....
ummm but i highly doubt mut put all that in, that's a copy paste job.
True but it must've taken more than 2 seconds [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img] shame on you!
What makes me angry is that Kishmoto doesn't develope Sakura's char before suddenly
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