i was looking to buy the iriver too, but its got bad reviews at technology.msn.ca (i think thats the site). I was very close to buying it not minding the extra 50 bux for a coloured screen but they said that the syncing of the music sucks like crap, and that its got bad service if your willing to call, etc etc... Also it only works for winxp which is a really downer because my laptop only has win2k (dont feel like upgrading cuz winxp takes too much space *2gigs* compared to 600mb on a 6gig comp) so i bought the zen instead, and i dont regret anything. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]