Episode 30 Discussion "Spoilers"

[JerV]

I think Shinn is cool he doesnt cry like Kira did in the original and hes becomming a damn good pilot

[kinggalaxia]

Thank you, JerV....there are too many Shinn-bashers here. We must rise up against them, for Shinn rocks and is the main character of the show....not SOMEone else..

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: kinggalaxia
Thank you, JerV....there are too many Shinn-bashers here. We must rise up against them, for Shinn rocks and is the main character of the show....not SOMEone else..

Shinn is the freaken Gohan of Gundam Seed. They already have a main character who they declared the best so why do we have to watch some whiney brat develope. Yes Kira cried a lot but shinn doesn't have Fllay around screwing with his head as much as possible. Instead everysingle thing he does is for his own benefit. He doesn't release Stellar so that she will live as he knows all he's doing is making her fight more. Instead he releases her for no other reason then he can't watch her die instead he want to go ahead snd kill her himself.

[Terracosmo]

Originally posted by: DDBen

Originally posted by: kinggalaxia
Thank you, JerV....there are too many Shinn-bashers here. We must rise up against them, for Shinn rocks and is the main character of the show....not SOMEone else..

He doesn't release Stellar so that she will live as he knows all he's doing is making her fight more. Instead he releases her for no other reason then he can't watch her die instead he want to go ahead snd kill her himself.

I advice you to watch the episode again. Actually, watch the whole show again.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo

Originally posted by: DDBen
He doesn't release Stellar so that she will live as he knows all he's doing is making her fight more. Instead he releases her for no other reason then he can't watch her die instead he want to go ahead and kill her himself.

I advice you to watch the episode again. Actually, watch the whole show again.

First off Terra I made this post after watching only the raw so I had basically no idea what was being said. Now having watched it with subs I will say my statement here was mostly inaccurate. Shinn still released her so he wouldn't feel guilty but in fact it was that or let her die and be disected. Still the fact is that its a war and Stellar is a elite soldier there is no way they would take her off the front lines. In fact they would be more likely to wipe her memory and send her out just so that shinn wouldn't be able to kill her.

[Oakleya]

Then maybe you shouldnt make any comment if you dont know what they say.

[DDBen]

Originally posted by: Oakleya
Then maybe you shouldnt make any comment if you dont know what they say.

incase you missed it I still don't disagree with my comment. Shinn does nothing for anyone but himself that fact remains. He didn't want to see her die because to him he couldn't take that happening. However in her case it might be better to let her die instead of returning her to being a weapon who's mind is randomly rewritten. I still hold that he didn't release her to prevent her from dying and only to prevent himself from the guilt of it happening.

Shinn is all about Shinn. He's sarcastic against others because he can't live upto his own statement. He only kills and goes into seed because he can't stand to lose. He doesn't care about the people on the ship only himself in every case. He joined plant for revenge and not to do anything nobel for Plant as he could care less about them as well. The only thing Shinn truely cares about is himself. Yes he promised Stellar he would protect her and his actions were done in order to do so, but in the end who really gains the most out of what he did. All it does for Stellar is make her the same weapon she has always been instead of letting her die and/or become a research subject. Zaft had no intentions of killing her infact they would prefer she stayed alive to study her. The EA is only going to continue to pump her full of drugs and edit her as they see fit. Neo's promise won't be kept as the EA is desprite and would never give up one of there main soldiers capiable of fighting equally with quardinators.

The parts of my statement that were however inacurrate are as follows. Shinn does release her so that she can live and his own ego would certainly make him feel that the deal he made will be honored. So in turn Shinn in his warped little head does believe she won't have to fight anymore. He still does release her only for his personal gain, However not explicitly so he can kill her (though more then likely he will do it anyway.

The meaning is really no differn't just the circumstances the result stays completely the same.