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    hogwarts wont be open because undoubtly, hermonie and ron will join harry and theres no way ms. weasly would let ron go instead of school.

    EDIT: now for a more thoughtout post after reading all your responses.

    like the rest of you i'm happy harry finally got laid.

    Dumbledore's death was pretty shocking but i knew from the moment they went to the cave he was going to die. Before the 6th book came out rowling said "i promise 1 of the main characters wont survive" i thought this meant ron, but it was dumbledore.


    -snapes duelling abilities are badass though the visual they give of him in the movies sucks. (he repelled every single one of harry's attacks with a flick of his wand)
    -Throughout the book i always figured Voldermart was the half blooded prince, think about it he's a halfblood, and his father was pretty much nobility.
    -and the avada keradva (i cant spell these spells) question mentioned by some1 up there, bellatrix lestrange explained that with unforgiveable spells you have to set out your brain and heart into that spell, wanting it to hit with all your energy, it seems to not be a simple task to use one, i doubt malfoy's would've been too successful considering harry's been under it before and gained control (book 4) considering he must have little experience in doing it.

    the books overall story was good, but it was only saved by the last part. throughout the book, the ron-hermonie jealousy hatred thing was extremely blown out of proportion. They have a fight in almost every book. The Romilda Vane or whoever's obsession with harry and ron eating the love potion was extremely funny, but really had nothing to do with the book. Harry getting the elves to help him was genius, except that part where he couldnt get into the room of requirement was pretty gay.

    heres some questions i have i wonder if any of you can answer it:
    -if the 6th years are able to almost master silent spells, why cant death eaters do it?
    -the time it takes for the death eaters to say crucio somehow the others get "perfectlos tenclotus" out or something of the sort (the 1 that makes their body stiff)?
    -did dumbledore ever say which house he belonged to? (i remember hufflepuff or gryffendor?
    -how would voldermart have gotten his horcrux (the 1 in the cave)? dumbledore said it needed 2 people and voldermart would never let his deatheaters know about them, yet he cant do it alone.


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    Harry Potter- Half Blood Prince- discussion

    Originally posted by: Chaoskiddo
    -snapes duelling abilities are badass though the visual they give of him in the movies sucks. (he repelled every single one of harry's attacks with a flick of his wand)
    -and the avada keradva (i cant spell these spells) question mentioned by some1 up there, bellatrix lestrange explained that with unforgiveable spells you have to set out your brain and heart into that spell, wanting it to hit with all your energy, it seems to not be a simple task to use one, i doubt malfoy's would've been too successful considering harry's been under it before and gained control (book 4) considering he must have little experience in doing it.

    heres some questions i have i wonder if any of you can answer it:
    -if the 6th years are able to almost master silent spells, why cant death eaters do it?
    -the time it takes for the death eaters to say crucio somehow the others get "perfectlos tenclotus" out or something of the sort (the 1 that makes their body stiff)?
    -did dumbledore ever say which house he belonged to? (i remember hufflepuff or gryffendor?
    -how would voldermart have gotten his horcrux (the 1 in the cave)? dumbledore said it needed 2 people and voldermart would never let his deatheaters know about them, yet he cant do it alone.
    Snape did rock, he always was really good at Dark Arts and knows the flipside of Defense against them, being with Dumbledore's crew for so long... He also knows all about Harry and can use this to his advantage.

    The Death Eaters are evil people, they love to do evil things. Even that Fenrir Greyback particularly loves to attack young children, but he only managed to bite one of the older Weasley brothers... I can't imagine these people couldn't produce some damn good Unforgivables on the kids just because they don't know them. It may not be simple, but its what they're best at for crying out loud!

    Why can't Death Eaters do it? I remember in Book 5 Hermione got hit with a Sectumseptra (the swordlike slashing spell) which was from a Silenced Death Eater. This seems like the way to go, rather than stupid stuns and basic hexes that just cause people so boo-boos. I would go in their slashing people apart if I were a Death Eater, and since they were on a covert mission, stealth and silence would have been key.

    Also, if two people were required to get the Horcrux, how could R.A.B. get it? (since he obviously did) and did the spell just go back in place over the fake locket, or did R.A.B. put it there (and why would he?) It seems to me that if Voldemort made the defense around the Horcrux, he would also be unharmed by it. But ya never know...

    Part of it is just that J.K. Rowling would rather sacrifice some realism and plausibility than have some characters die or get hurt. Is there any way that the Death Eaters shouldn't have killed all the D.A. during the 5th Book? Not those who got seperated from Harry at least... A group of Death Eaters with a vast arsenal of spells can't ever seem to get the words out before the Hogwarts children for the same reason, Rowling is attached to the good guys and doesn't want to face the facts that, in the world she herself constructed, the kids would be screwed and evil would prevail over good. But since she has all the power of an author, she gets to do as she pleases. She has Harry and others get hit by some spells, but none of them do lasting damage or have any specific malady, they're all sort of like getting kicked or punched...

    Also, we have Snape, Harry and others dodging and blocking and even REVERSING spells in defense. But the Death Eaters never seem to do this...

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    Originally posted by: masamuneehs
    Part of it is just that J.K. Rowling would rather sacrifice some realism and plausibility than have some characters die or get hurt. Is there any way that the Death Eaters shouldn't have killed all the D.A. during the 5th Book? Not those who got seperated from Harry at least... A group of Death Eaters with a vast arsenal of spells can't ever seem to get the words out before the Hogwarts children for the same reason, Rowling is attached to the good guys and doesn't want to face the facts that, in the world she herself constructed, the kids would be screwed and evil would prevail over good. But since she has all the power of an author, she gets to do as she pleases. She has Harry and others get hit by some spells, but none of them do lasting damage or have any specific malady, they're all sort of like getting kicked or punched...
    Well, this is supposed to a children's storybook, after all....

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    Originally posted by: masamuneehs

    Snape did rock, he always was really good at Dark Arts and knows the flipside of Defense against them, being with Dumbledore's crew for so long... He also knows all about Harry and can use this to his advantage.
    Considering harry's most successful spells were created by Snape, i doubt that snape would've had any trouble repelling it, what i dont get is, is snape more powerful than say...bellatrix? harry almost dueled bellatrix head on successfully, but never stood a chance with snape?

    The Death Eaters are evil people, they love to do evil things. Even that Fenrir Greyback particularly loves to attack young children, but he only managed to bite one of the older Weasley brothers... I can't imagine these people couldn't produce some damn good Unforgivables on the kids just because they don't know them. It may not be simple, but its what they're best at for crying out loud!
    i believe the DA students credited it to something about the felix fr....(luck potion)

    Why can't Death Eaters do it? I remember in Book 5 Hermione got hit with a Sectumseptra (the swordlike slashing spell) which was from a Silenced Death Eater. This seems like the way to go, rather than stupid stuns and basic hexes that just cause people so boo-boos. I would go in their slashing people apart if I were a Death Eater, and since they were on a covert mission, stealth and silence would have been key.

    hmm? thats right it WAS like sectumseptra though i'm not sure the same thing, it was described to have a little purpleish flame or something.

    Also, if two people were required to get the Horcrux, how could R.A.B. get it? (since he obviously did) and did the spell just go back in place over the fake locket, or did R.A.B. put it there (and why would he?) It seems to me that if Voldemort made the defense around the Horcrux, he would also be unharmed by it. But ya never know...
    ah, i thought of something, maybe the potion doesnt affect halfbloods, it would suit perfectly! he assumes the best wizards are purebloods, so being able to get that far voldermart assumed the wizard/witch was a pureblood. If R.A.B was a halfblood, he wouldnt have any trouble getting it. Also, with this defence voldermart wouldnt have to worry about most of his supporters betraying him because he made sure almost all of them were pureblooded. Technically speaking, harry who has the most similarities with voldermart should've been the one to drink the potion, it would've affected him least because like the prophecy said the dark lord will mark him as his equal voldermart gave harry some of his powers, so harry is very similar to voldermart.

    Part of it is just that J.K. Rowling would rather sacrifice some realism and plausibility than have some characters die or get hurt. Is there any way that the Death Eaters shouldn't have killed all the D.A. during the 5th Book? Not those who got seperated from Harry at least... A group of Death Eaters with a vast arsenal of spells can't ever seem to get the words out before the Hogwarts children for the same reason, Rowling is attached to the good guys and doesn't want to face the facts that, in the world she herself constructed, the kids would be screwed and evil would prevail over good. But since she has all the power of an author, she gets to do as she pleases. She has Harry and others get hit by some spells, but none of them do lasting damage or have any specific malady, they're all sort of like getting kicked or punched...
    this can be proven from the book why the DA members stood a chance.
    -logic in harry potter books are not normal logic ex. "the strongest wizard of all time who has so much pride, forbids anybody to speak his name"<--if i was voldermart i would want everyone to know my name so i could rule under it!
    -harry SOMEHOW was able to elude voldermart when he was only 14, AND harry fought voldermart and survived, though he is "special" he should've been long dead.
    -Voldermart asking Draco to do the task of killing dumbledore, this was pure stupidity because it contridicts with the plot until the end. draco's mom pleading at snape "HE'LL DIE IN THE ATTEMPT AIEE!" and all that crap, i figured he was going to break the death eaters out of prision.
    -it appears, that by the time your a 5th year in hogwarts, you should already know the most effective, counter-jinxes, curses, hexes and charms.
    -in the 6th book defence against dark arts class focused on silent spells, no new ones, just the ability to perform the ones they already knew silently. <--this might explain how the DA members were able to fight against the death eaters. also it seems when your playing "Defensive" you have more of an advantage instead of pursuing, all the death eaters were afraid to harm harry because he had the prophecy.

    Also, we have Snape, Harry and others dodging and blocking and even REVERSING spells in defense. But the Death Eaters never seem to do this...
    well, it seems that the death eaters fighting at hogwarts are, lower classed, because undoubtly, voldermart would've sent his best to get the prophecy. also, the DA members were never in a real duel against the death eaters. They never fought like the way the members of the Order did against death eaters in the 5th book where everybody was dueling 1v1.


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