ya Legend is like a crap version of Providence lol
ya Legend is like a crap version of Providence lol
I agree about Providence being cooler. It's just that I'm a Rey fanboy. Or at least I was until it was revealed that he was just a clone. But then again, I still like him.
Bottomline: if I get any it will probably be the prior.
hiro fansub is out http://www.hiro-fansubs.com/
yay, can't wait to watch this crap subbed. *downloading*
god damn that's a hella fast release considering that the episode is all talk
Ovan, The Rebirth
lol
"...What the hell is Fukuda smoking?
Anyway, GSD 48 out.
-silverfailure"
You said it, Hiro.
I was gonna go to bed now but... fuck that.
Also, to anyone who is attempting to get this via IRC, good luck. I tried and ended up at queue position 260. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
260 O.O ? i think i'll just wait another 2 hours...
I don't care to get the ep. You guys just tell me what happened.
Originally posted by: FelixZeroAlastor
I don't care to get the ep. You guys just tell me what happened.
OK, Ok, OK, like Rey is totally talking about his RAD hair. And Shinn is like "DUDE, Fo' SURE, I use the same conditioner." Then Luna bashes the door down with two male gorillas behind her. The FREAKING apes go ballistic on Shin and Rey's ass. Then the gorillas come out dressed as Rey and Shinn, even the hair man...they took their HAIR! Then, like, Kira and Athuran are getting STONED. Lacus comes in talking her righteous path shit and Kira totally BITCH slaps her across the room. Athuran starts to laugh. All of a sudden Lacus gets back up, but as soon as she does Neo/Mwu slams the door open (where Lacus happens to stand and knocks her the F*ck out) bringing in some Imported German beer. They all get wasted and the Chairman is excited about trying on a new bathing suit and thong!
lol It starts off with a bunch of recaps then the rest are long speeches. That about sums it up [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Summary of the episode: Gil wants everybody to agree to the Destiny plan. ORB naturally declines and so does some random nation called Althea. So Gil blows it up using the Requiem. Meanwhile, Rey confesses to Shinn that he is a clone - confirming what an infant could have figured out since episode 1. The rest of the episode was just nonsense.
Jesus. I don't know where to begin. I guess I'll just break this up in 2 departments.
Good stuff:
- Rey is the best Destiny character without any competition. It is regrettable that he is a clone, but he is very diverse. He might just be a "pawn", but he's intelligent and very cool to watch. He also says good things, and plays the piano. He is a character with many sides, one of few in this damn show.
- For a few seconds closer to the end, I actually felt that cool build-up that was present in the last Seed episodes. The whole "a big battle is about to begin" thing. But when compared to how that feeling was in Seed... well... then this was nothing. So I guess I must try to avoid that.
Bad stuff:
- Everything else. But seriously...
- In the middle, I laughed so hard. It was incredibly funny when Lacus spoke to Kira and Athrun this time around.
"We must stop Dullindal from creating his world of death"
I was like WTF world of death? There is absolutely nothing wrong with Gil's plans in theory. NOTHING. Of course in the long run it would "suck" but "WORLD OF DEATH?". It's so obvious that whoever pulls the dialogue out of his ass just had Lacus say that cuz it sounds "cool". I mean seriously. Am I the only one who feels absolutely zero against Gil? I mean I can understand why the Archangel wants to stop him, but I don't buy that whole "Gil is evil we must defeat him!" shit. It's like Fukuda tries to justify the anti-Gil movement but brutally fails. I still feel like the Archangel crew are morons. It was also very funny that Kira & Athrun casually agreed to what Lacus said. Like "Yeah". As if it's not even anything to care about. lol.
- I hate Lacus. Everything she does. She is the worst Seed character by far. I don't know how she managed to reach this point in my view, but she is a complete fucktard. I hate everything about her. And I especially hate when she looks determined and angry at the same time. I'm thinking of a particular mugshot which is early in this episode (and has been shown before). Some of you might know which one I mean. She looks so irritating there that I want to throw my monitor into the wall. Fucking bitch.
- It was also pretty funny that Dearka yelled "Yzak" out of nowhere in the episode.
Well I don't know what else to say. The show is screwed, but I will still watch it to the end of course. I'll just have to try and satisfy myself with the fact that Rey rules and that at least not all of Destiny sucked so incredibly much as this flashback maraton does.
That was the Atlantic Federation President wasn't it?Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Summary of the episode: Gil wants everybody to agree to the Destiny plan. ORB naturally declines and so does some random nation called Althea.
Introducing Dullindal and Copland in Destiny Astray
Althea was probably just a major city in the Atlantic Federation.
I agree with everyone on this, the only thing that can redeem this is a five second cameo by fukuda, where he and lacus get evisecrated by shinn's destiny blade.
That would make me smile [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
On another note, Lacus is the evillest character on the show. I mean, wow, i knew the Clyne faction was powerful, but i really didn't expect her to pull a whole armada out of her ass! (The EA makes sense, they have all the resources.) WHen the EA was destroyed by Requiem, i was wondering who the other side would be in the ending battle,, but the lacus faction taking on the entire ZAFT military? WTF. Having some ZAFT forces (like Yzak and Dearkka) realize the chairman was a complete nutcase and defect would make more sense than that.
And really, the only one who's been manipulating the AA crew is Lacus, she's behind everything, Kira's personality being turned to that of a brick wall, those talking episodes, the sucky plot, EVERYTHING!
I wouldn't be surprised if Lacus used her armada and declare herself dictator of the universe [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img], not only is she in a position to do so, at least that would be a cool twist, since it would involve killing her. muahhaha
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"You'll soon see what Gotham City is like without fear, and it won't be pretty. Fear is the glue that holds society together, it's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear. Is power." - The Scarecrow
maybe that's the big twist in the ending that i've been hearing rumors about to start a gundam seed 3rd series, that would be super kool and i would definitely watch that, kira and athrun vs lacus who is trying to take over the entire universe and had spies in orb for a long time now and takes over orb and kira has to kill lacus or it's the end of the world!!Originally posted by: DeathscytheVII
I wouldn't be surprised if Lacus used her armada and declare herself dictator of the universe [img][/img], not only is she in a position to do so, at least that would be a cool twist, since it would involve killing her. muahhaha
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Ovan, The Rebirth
"WORLD OF DEATH?".
She's right. How is it not a world of death? I guess some people have forgotten how bad cartoon drawing of the Destiny Plan but had trouble listening to Lacus because she has more personality. Lacus's world, as it is, where everyone have their own mind, makes their own choices on how they are to be born despite their flaws, their goals and aspiration, etc etc or Dullindal world where your rights are stripped, your freedom of thought taken away, your skills, goals, and life determined at birth, and everyone is a clone of somebody before you. Yeah instead of making the ultimate coordinator you'll have ultimate 'brain-dead' coordinators good for only one thing, being a drone. Gee, can i have 50/50? Who's more evil and munipulative? Who has a former competitor's death ray and sits above the skies giving ultimatums? I don't see how Lacus is evil. Dullindal's scene with view of the stars & his posture on his throne remind you of someone from the Star Wars? I can imagine the next generation of human beings will turn out. Disposible, putty-like, and comes in a box ready-to-ship complete with user guides. Most will just be blobs that don't have much function and eventually become obsolete to his program so the Chairman will turn them back into goo and remake them as he pleases. He'll clone himself too just in case he doesnt outlive his experiment and there are any left that still have brains. It will make the EAF extended program seem insignificant.
ORB and Scandinavia rejected the plan, Althea was the last EAF base and not related to the other two (note, while the vice-captain of ther Minerva clearly states the requiem beam is heading towards earth, the animation we get is a base o nthe moon getting blown up - go figure).
Lauc called Gil's furute plans a 'world of death' because he kills anyone who disagrees with him, and it doesn't matter how popular he is, someone will always disagree and Gil will respond by nuking their home-town; which will spark up more resistance resulting in more home-town nukings until only Gil is left cause he's holding the trigger.
It's like how Patrik Zala was towards the end, he shot some poor guy just because he questioned an order - and he got shot right back.
Thank you so much Alukard, I've been wondering how to defend Lacus and you put the words into my mouth.Originally posted by: alukard
"WORLD OF DEATH?".
She's right. How is it not a world of death? I guess some people have forgotten how bad cartoon drawing of the Destiny Plan but had trouble listening to Lacus because she has more personality. Lacus's world, as it is, where everyone have their own mind, makes their own choices on how they are to be born despite their flaws, their goals and aspiration, etc etc or Dullindal world where your rights are stripped, your freedom of thought taken away, your skills, goals, and life determined at birth, and everyone is a clone of somebody before you. Yeah instead of making the ultimate coordinator you'll have ultimate 'brain-dead' coordinators good for only one thing, being a drone. Gee, can i have 50/50? Who's more evil and munipulative? Who has a former competitor's death ray and sits above the skies giving ultimatums? I don't see how Lacus is evil. Dullindal's scene with view of the stars & his posture on his throne remind you of someone from the Star Wars? I can imagine the next generation of human beings will turn out. Disposible, putty-like, and comes in a box ready-to-ship complete with user guides. Most will just be blobs that don't have much function and eventually become obsolete to his program so the Chairman will turn them back into goo and remake them as he pleases. He'll clone himself too just in case he doesnt outlive his experiment and there are any left that still have brains. It will make the EAF extended program seem insignificant.
anyway, if Lacus is talking bull shit throughout the whole season, its because the Newt Brained Fukuda doesn't know how to write scripts for her. Or for anyone in GSD for that matter. Is this truly the same person who directed the fantastic Gundam Seed? Or is he having a nervous breakdown?
Another redeeming factor of the show. There's quite a nice build up of the "Good Forces" at the end. I wasn't so much shocked to see Nazca and Laurasia class cruisers from Zaft coming up to escort Eternal, but even EAF, dig this people EAF ships coming up to her.
Come on guys, she has been missing for about 10 episodes in space. She's gotta be doing something other than just investigating the Chairman. And whose to say that Andy Waldfield, who remained in space while Lacus and Kira went back to Earth, hasn't been revealing the Destiny plan to whoever who would listen? not just ZAFT but EAF as well. And since EAF are supposed to be anti-coordinators, th fact that NELSON class battlcruisers are escorting Eternal, a certified ZAFT ship finally give me some relief.
Mainly, not everyone in EAF military are anti-coordinator jerks.
Not once since Admiral Herberton of the 8th Armada have we seen a reasonable commander and soldier who doesn't simply label all coordinators as enemies. Remember he had a short but civil conversation with Kira before all hell broke loose, and nothing had to do with animosity. He merely wondered why Kira's parents made him a coordinator and that's that.
So for strange reasons, I'm happy to see NELSON class battlcruisers escorting Eternal.
On the other hand, I guess now that the Atlantic Federation is gone, ORB is the only one else the remaining EAF forces can turn to.
But remember that as soon as Andy Waldfield gave the signal only did the Nazca, Laurasia and Nelson class battlecuriser showed up. So my interpretation that those are the elements of EAF that has been listening to Lacus all along, maybe as far back as the previos war since it was the ORB faction that prevented the firing of GENESIS.
"The songstress is returning". How fitting. After months of stepping at the side, Lacus will finally do her job with her own bare hands.
Fucking Dullindal, I knew he didn't destroy Requiem because he wanted his own super weapon. Why else would he thank Djibril?
Still, chances are very slim for ORB and the remaing EAF. I only count 12 ships in this episode that will represent the Clyne faction.
Eternal
Archangel
Kusanagi
2 Nazcas
2 Laurasia
2 Izumos
3 Nelsons
Total: 12 ships.
Possible reinforcements: Yzak's squad. I'm not sure if his squad means just his Nazca cruiser or he has a group of ships under him collectively called his squad.
Dullindal:
Minerva
Bloody hell, tens, maybe hundreds of Nazca's and Laurasias.
Although according to Fukuda logic, one METEOR probably means EVERYONE DIES! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!![img]i/expressions/devil.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/img] [img]i/expressions/devil.gif[/img]
All in all, a crappy episode but at least had a good build up feeling at the end.
terra is still right, he said it would suck in the end, but its not a world of death. i dont see why its a world of death after reading ur post. i see a world of mental manipulation and decreased diverstiy but not a world of death. as bad as it is, it isnt death. unless u say world of "death" then i give it to u but without the quotes ur completly and utterly wrong.Originally posted by: alukard
"WORLD OF DEATH?".
She's right. How is it not a world of death? I guess some people have forgotten how bad cartoon drawing of the Destiny Plan but had trouble listening to Lacus because she has more personality. Lacus's world, as it is, where everyone have their own mind, makes their own choices on how they are to be born despite their flaws, their goals and aspiration, etc etc or Dullindal world where your rights are stripped, your freedom of thought taken away, your skills, goals, and life determined at birth, and everyone is a clone of somebody before you. Yeah instead of making the ultimate coordinator you'll have ultimate 'brain-dead' coordinators good for only one thing, being a drone. Gee, can i have 50/50? Who's more evil and munipulative? Who has a former competitor's death ray and sits above the skies giving ultimatums? I don't see how Lacus is evil. Dullindal's scene with view of the stars & his posture on his throne remind you of someone from the Star Wars? I can imagine the next generation of human beings will turn out. Disposible, putty-like, and comes in a box ready-to-ship complete with user guides. Most will just be blobs that don't have much function and eventually become obsolete to his program so the Chairman will turn them back into goo and remake them as he pleases. He'll clone himself too just in case he doesnt outlive his experiment and there are any left that still have brains. It will make the EAF extended program seem insignificant.
Originally posted by: alukard
"WORLD OF DEATH?".
She's right. How is it not a world of death? I guess some people have forgotten how bad cartoon drawing of the Destiny Plan but had trouble listening to Lacus because she has more personality. Lacus's world, as it is, where everyone have their own mind, makes their own choices on how they are to be born despite their flaws, their goals and aspiration, etc etc or Dullindal world where your rights are stripped, your freedom of thought taken away, your skills, goals, and life determined at birth, and everyone is a clone of somebody before you. Yeah instead of making the ultimate coordinator you'll have ultimate 'brain-dead' coordinators good for only one thing, being a drone. Gee, can i have 50/50? Who's more evil and munipulative? Who has a former competitor's death ray and sits above the skies giving ultimatums? I don't see how Lacus is evil. Dullindal's scene with view of the stars & his posture on his throne remind you of someone from the Star Wars? I can imagine the next generation of human beings will turn out. Disposible, putty-like, and comes in a box ready-to-ship complete with user guides. Most will just be blobs that don't have much function and eventually become obsolete to his program so the Chairman will turn them back into goo and remake them as he pleases. He'll clone himself too just in case he doesnt outlive his experiment and there are any left that still have brains. It will make the EAF extended program seem insignificant.
alukard. it is not a world of death!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That line makes absolutely no sense and was put in their just because lacus had to say something. If the destiny plan is anything like the society of brave new world, which i believe it is, since the whole idea is completely ripped off, then trust me, people are HAPPY and all things are centered around PEACE. It's just more a question about whether all humans really want to be happy if happiness is defined for them. Plus that kind of a society does not consist of robots who have no brains, so you can't really call them drones. It is instead a society that predestines roles for people. So basically, the people who are at the top and need to be thinking of how to run the society are intelligent free thinkers, and as you descend down the roles people get less intelligent depending on how much intelligence they need to fulfill their roles. Those at the bottom, or the worker class, might be considered drones but that doesnt mean the whole society is! Actually the idea behind it is, you genetically receive as much intelligence as you need to fulfill your certain role. This is because anything beyond what you need will only cause hindrances.
NOTE: This is just my assumption based on what Brave New World Society was like. There is no factual evidence from the anim'e . But it seems logical that this is the kind of world dullindaal has in mind
Check your eyesight,that's more than 2 Izumos and they can take out a whole fleet of ships with their Lohengrins.It's pretty clear next episode is not a recap,since it's pretty much hinted that it's Clyne/Orb/Free States of Earth vs. ZAFT/anyone else on their side.Both protagonists Gundams get to finally use their METEORs and Justice gets the honr of slaying Rey and Legend.
And please,Archzarchel(or whatever it's called) is an Atlantic Federation base on the Moon.
Addicted to Gunpla right now...
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