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    kira being hated and destiny plan

    Originally posted by: redemption2MKII
    Well we definately know they knew each other back then, even before he had to use the pills and the mask. What is with those pills anyway? Dullindal GAVE them to Rau, right? so what the hell are they for?
    The Cloning process is imperfect. The pills are to stabalize the condition so they don't die from it.

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    kira being hated and destiny plan

    Originally posted by: Curium
    Originally posted by: redemption2MKII
    Well we definately know they knew each other back then, even before he had to use the pills and the mask. What is with those pills anyway? Dullindal GAVE them to Rau, right? so what the hell are they for?
    The Cloning process is imperfect. The pills are to stabalize the condition so they don't die from it.
    Is the cloning process imperfect? I had always assumed that the problem was that cells can only divide a certain number of times, something called Hayflick limit i think, and if you clone someone then the clone someone who is in their 30s it is like a new person whose cells have already undergone 30 years of division, that is why Rey's telomeres are short i think, which would greatly shorten the life expectancy. I thought the pills were somehow suppose to slow down cell division or something, although I just assumed this without noticing anything in the show saying so.

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    kira being hated and destiny plan

    Originally posted by: Freki
    Originally posted by: Curium
    Originally posted by: redemption2MKII
    Well we definately know they knew each other back then, even before he had to use the pills and the mask. What is with those pills anyway? Dullindal GAVE them to Rau, right? so what the hell are they for?
    The Cloning process is imperfect. The pills are to stabalize the condition so they don't die from it.
    Is the cloning process imperfect? I had always assumed that the problem was that cells can only divide a certain number of times, something called Hayflick limit i think, and if you clone someone then the clone someone who is in their 30s it is like a new person whose cells have already undergone 30 years of division, that is why Rey's telomeres are short i think, which would greatly shorten the life expectancy. I thought the pills were somehow suppose to slow down cell division or something, although I just assumed this without noticing anything in the show saying so.
    I've never heard of all that before, but personally I would call that an imperfection in the cloning process wouldn't you?

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    I figured the issue with Raul and Rey wasn't they were a clone its that they basically age to death. As the clones were created and had to age faster in order to be pilots of any worth sooner. This is mainly presented in my eye's by Rey growing from being a little kid when he was with Raul to 3 years later him becomming a full teenager and a MS pilot. In my understanding the pills have just been a way to slow the aging process to a more acceptable rate however as they are constantly aging at a much faster rate then a normal human they will die much faster.

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    yea the pills make the clones from aging faster

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    http://www.Imaclone.com

    The telometer that Rey was referring to is that his cells are dying and thus he is dying as his "telometer" shortens. According to this article, Fukuda equates human cloning to sheeps. It is not true of all genes of different life forms such as humans & no one yet knows because no one has tried cloning human beings. Telometer is what tells the cell how 'old' you are and is one of nature's biological clocks. Telometers are what sequences of DNA that divides as DNA divides but DNA replication is not perfect thus telometer are cut back each time the cells divide. Dna are in sections & your whole original embryotic DNA can be labeled your original "telometer." Each time after your DNA replicates a portion of the DNA sequences is lost. Also each cell have a different "telometers." In other words immortality is very nearly obtained if we can understand how our telometers & DNA works.

    Your brains cells for example stop dividing after you've reached past you teens & your intelligence is most certainly influenced by your experience from childhood to teen years. This is one way of saying when a person becomes an adult though it varies person to person just as much as height. As of now, the limit of cloning seem to be that we are dependant upon mature cells & them & implanting it into an existing person...ahem. Because it is aged & because of the telometer factor that it is inevitable. I can't believe they have all that technology with DNA & still can't even work out gene manipulation or at least cloning. Kira's existence proves that all they can do so far is make a person disease free, have the perfect bodies & have nine lives, nothing more. That blue pill must be some strong stuff if it can slow aging & i wonder why the higher up coordinators dont know about it & grow some for themselves!

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