Ichigo's hollow powers

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: Budweineken
How can fighting Byakuya not be a real life or death situation, he was fucked up... and he didn't survived because Byakuaya spared him, he mainly survived cause Urahara treated him... It's not like the hollow inside Ichigo was saying, "Wait, Byakuya is toying with me, he wont kill Ichigo..." There's no way he could've known that... This is of course hypothetically saying that he indeed was inside of Ichigo at that moment, which I don't agree with...

And you are indeed misunderstanding me...

You said that Byakuya cutting Ichigo's power prevented the hollow from coming out... Guess what, that's wrong because what was cut was Rukia's powers inside him, and with all the evidence I have presented in my posts you can see that it's of no importance since Rukia's powers inside of him had nothing to do with Ichigo's hollow form...

Ok, I see now where I misunderstood you, sorry mate. I mixed up some of the facts when I said "Yeah, but Byakuya ruined Ichigos shit in that fight, so he had no shinigami/hollow powers that could save him". I see now that some of my statements must have looked rather wierd. Forget that I said that and look at my new theory instead. But hypothetically Rukia could have also have had hollow powers they just didn't get to manifest themselves. Because she gave away her powers in episode 1 and Ichigo lost her powers against Byakuya. (You don't need to tell me that this is far-fetched, I am already aware of that).

*new theory* In other fights where the hollow has aided Ichigo there has always been a defining moment where he would have died if nothing was done. Also maybe Ichigo himself has to have a very strong desire for something to save him and basically admit that he has lost.

Maybe the hollow Ichigo was in fact observing the first fight against Byakuya, but he decided not to help because he wanted Ichigo to lose his Rukia powers and get weakened. This however requires that the hollow must have calculated that Byakuya was going for Ichigo's link, but I think it's safe to assume that he could make such an analysis since he is extremely gifted. Rukia's powers might have been the thing that was surpressing the hollow from fully taking over Ichigo's body. So the hollow was waiting for Byakuya's final blow so that he could take over Ichigo's body. But as we know Rukia interrupted this.

[Carnage]

I just watched ep. 61 last night. Youll find the answers there.

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: God#2
I just watched ep. 61 last night. Youll find the answers there.

Answer for what? Please do elaborate.

[Carnage]

nevermind. I just rewatched the episode, it doesnt really completely explain how ichigo got his powers.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/img] I was just thinking though, since Aizens so strong and it seems like nobody but Yamaji has a chance of even touching him, well, Aizen said the wall of power between the shinigami and Hollows will be broken down. So maybe Ichigo will transcend Zangestu to a level higher than Bankai.

[Assassin]

i swear, more then half of you must be on crack. Where do you keep getting these new theories from?

OMG NEWTHEORY!!!1: hollow ichigo is the next evolution of the human race!

Corallory to new theory: hollow ichigo will team up with magneto who is infact aizens brother and they will kill all humans!111

Why do you all refuse to accept the most obvious of evidence. This is an anime, so almost anything is possible....but you have to think logically. Just because its possible, doesn't mean its true. If the odds of something happening are like 1:124989^878778 then you can pretty much accept that its not gona be the case. Focus on the more realistic theories instead of stuff like, "hollow ichigo appears to stop the hollow transformation."

[el_boss]

Originally posted by: Assassin
i swear, more then half of you must be on crack. Where do you keep getting these new theories from?

OMG NEWTHEORY!!!1: hollow ichigo is the next evolution of the human race!

Corallory to new theory: hollow ichigo will team up with magneto who is infact aizens brother and they will kill all humans!111

Why do you all refuse to accept the most obvious of evidence. This is an anime, so almost anything is possible....but you have to think logically. Just because its possible, doesn't mean its true. If the odds of something happening are like 1:124989^878778 then you can pretty much accept that its not gona be the case. Focus on the more realistic theories instead of stuff like, "hollow ichigo appears to stop the hollow transformation."

Which theories are more realistic? If you are going to whine you could at least keep it on topic. For example you can say what theories you don't like and explain why you don't like them, just saying that it's "unrealistic" isn't really a good argument when talking about this sort subject. Or you could say what theory you agree with the most and motivate. My theories might not be to your liking but I take the effort to present my motivation for them.

Your theory isn't really a new one. I would say that it's more like a extension to theory 4. And also it's more logical to say that hollow Ichigo is the next evolution of the shinigamis.

[Assassin]

refer to my earlier posts in the ep 61 thread for my theories and my evidence against some other theories. Im not gonna rewrite all of that here again.

as for realistic theories, here are the ones i mean:

#1, the pit theory. #2, rukia transferrence theory (although it has been disproven). #6, urahara did it on purpose. #3, reincarnation (only cuz we dont know what happens to souls when they die).

everything is imo is pretty idiotic. not because its a pretty long stretch, but because theres alot of evidence against it (stuff like hogokyou affecting rukia/ichigo)