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    why is weed illegal anywhere? I don't smoke a lot, but i'd like to have the option.
    although, I think one of the guys from south america is a big anti-weed person, and he has some good points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    why is weed illegal anywhere? I don't smoke a lot, but i'd like to have the option.
    although, I think one of the guys from south america is a big anti-weed person, and he has some good points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    why is weed illegal anywhere? I don't smoke a lot, but i'd like to have the option.
    although, I think one of the guys from south america is a big anti-weed person, and he has some good points.
    Like what?
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    Lots of other things do even more damage to your liver. Like Tylenol (acetaminophen). That's why you have to drink in moderation, so you can enjoy it for years to come. Also, eat a variety of foods that help your living process. Good fats (fish, nuts), veggies with sulfur in them (leafy greens, garlic, broccoli) etc.

    Weed is illegal in the US because Newspaper kingpin William Hearst spent a lot of time demonizing it in all his papers, largely speculated to destroy the hemp industry that competed with his paper/logging industry along with the DuPont family, who had recently created nylon. Since you can't tell the difference between the male and female plants from a distance, they get banned. In the end, the reason is still greed.

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    I completely dropped paracetamol from my system for years now just to avoid causing more damage to my liver. I am doing more than enough of that with my daily drinking.
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    Only reason I can think of weed being illegal is because prison contractors make too much money off cops arresting loads of people for these minor crimes. That or maybe it would reduce productivity of an economy if too many people smoke too often.

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    Personally I think humanity needs more motivation and less drug-induced lethargy. People are lazy enough as it is. How are we ever going to colonize Mars or discover a cure for cancer if everyone is high all the time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Personally I think humanity needs more motivation and less drug-induced lethargy. People are lazy enough as it is. How are we ever going to colonize Mars or discover a cure for cancer if everyone is high all the time?
    Not sure if you're just joking around, but the people who end up getting us on Mars or discovering cancer usually aren't the type to let drugs get in their way in any case. As for everyone else, the worst that will happen is they'll slack off somewhat in a management/services position. If everyone does this though that might be a problem for economic output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Personally I think humanity needs more motivation and less drug-induced lethargy. People are lazy enough as it is. How are we ever going to colonize Mars or discover a cure for cancer if everyone is high all the time?
    You have clearly never witnessed someone smoke two bowls and then clean their entire apartment because they are so high. Or do what would normally be demoralizing monotonous manual labor with an intense focus and accuracy after they had their "lunch" break.

    Not all people who smoke weed get lazy and eat Cheetos while watching Dora the Explorer. People have different reactions to the stuff. Like delusions for example, believing they understand "the criminal mind" better after doing so. Some get paranoid, some get hyper, even some people get angry (and aren't offered weed again).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You have clearly never witnessed someone smoke two bowls and then clean their entire apartment because they are so high. Or do what would normally be demoralizing monotonous manual labor with an intense focus and accuracy after they had their "lunch" break.

    Not all people who smoke weed get lazy and eat Cheetos while watching Dora the Explorer. People have different reactions to the stuff. Like delusions for example, believing they understand "the criminal mind" better after doing so. Some get paranoid, some get hyper, even some people get angry (and aren't offered weed again).
    There may be select cases of different reactions to marijuana, but human physiology is mostly the same, hence our reactions to chemicals will mostly be the same. Your average pot smoker will lay about in a stupor and be useless.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    There may be select cases of different reactions to marijuana, but human physiology is mostly the same, hence our reactions to chemicals will mostly be the same. Your average pot smoker will lay about in a stupor and be useless.
    But you're referencing a minority of people who aren't average, because they likely carry intellect within the top 1% or .01% of our population. Again, people who would be getting us on Mars or curing cancer probably won't be held back by marijuana.

    But as for the rest of the population doing their everyday jobs, yeah that is the concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    There may be select cases of different reactions to marijuana, but human physiology is mostly the same, hence our reactions to chemicals will mostly be the same.
    I... beg to differ, but I'm no expert in the matter either so I won't pursue the case.

    It's not so much that pot can reduce productivity Ani, but that it's arguably comparable or even less harmful than other sources of entertainment. It's not so much why is weed banned, but "Why is weed banned but xyz (alcohol etc) isn't?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Animeniax View Post
    Personally I think humanity needs more motivation and less drug-induced lethargy. People are lazy enough as it is. How are we ever going to colonize Mars or discover a cure for cancer if everyone is high all the time?

    In that case, get rid of video games and TV and censor the internet, too. Clearly, people can't moderate themselves and need all forms of distractions eliminated to advance as a people!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    Not sure if you're just joking around, but the people who end up getting us on Mars or discovering cancer usually aren't the type to let drugs get in their way in any case. As for everyone else, the worst that will happen is they'll slack off somewhat in a management/services position. If everyone does this though that might be a problem for economic output.
    Well those people may never get to the point where they can lead us to greatness if they are high all the time. If people are already successful and just smoke to reduce stress or have some downtime then I'm ok with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapphire View Post
    In that case, get rid of video games and TV and censor the internet, too. Clearly, people can't moderate themselves and need all forms of distractions eliminated to advance as a people!
    Well that is why we have moderators on the forums...


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    Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of productive citizens (college grads with degrees in engineering and computer disciplines) who smoke pot, but they use/found pot as a way to relieve stress. I think if pot were legalized, kids would lose any motivation to pursue college/education before they got a chance to realize their potential. If you mess up in high school, chances of getting into a decent college are slim, as well as the chance you will do something that helps society.

    I just like to cite the Chinese and the way they force youth into certain professions and niches, to direct their energy for the betterment of their society. While I like freedom of choice, I see too often that it leads to mediocrity and listlessness. I don't see that pot legalization will help the cause.


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    They drink themselves silly anyway. Legalisation of weed doesn't mean we leave it unregulated either.

    If weed is comparable to alcohol in terms of psychological effects but is less harmful physiologically, then the only real argument I can see arguing for the harsher legislation is because "less harm = more use". In other words, one might argue that because you can get high without killing yourself, people would be more inclined to do so. You might say that people drink in moderation because they understand that they can actually die from drinking too much. In practice, whether such self control and harm limitation takes place is questionable.

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    Alcohol is legal because it has been used pretty much everywhere since time immemorial. Weed has been used also since ancient times, but only in very limited areas and not in the Western societies (that I know of, at least). Alcohol is even used by the church, which used to be the meter of right and wrong for a long time. Drugs were introduced later and were thus easier to ban as they didn't have such a widespread penetration in the population.

    Things like this have the additional complication of already being banned by the law a long time ago and thus needing a majority in the parliament to be ignored by the law once again (or allowed and regulated, like it most likely would be). It could be a political suicide for any old politicians to start to advocate drugs. I reckon most voters still don't use drugs so they wouldn't care to have them legalized, thinking "since I don't smoke pot, nobody needs to".

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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    Ryllharu mentioned some of the reasons for illegalization presented in the article. I find a site that rants about a subject to be biased and hard to trust for straight facts.

    Some big differences between alcohol and marijuana use are their after effects. I found I could drive a car just fine while still affected by marijuana, while alcohol is well known to severely impair driving ability (but so does phone usage). Lack of hangover is another major factor, as marijuana does not cause severe hangover so it will be more readily used if it is legalized.

    Alcohol's plus side is that it removes your inhibitions. How many children would not have been born if their parents had not connected in an alcohol-induced sexual liaison? Marijuana adds inhibition to do pretty much anything.


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    I would not recommend driving while high on pot. I teleported a couple of times while doing that.
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