Gundam 00 Episode 09

[TheBladeChild]

Ditto the animation is holding me this time, also the fact this is the first gundam series to be shown in HD which is why the mendoi subs have such awesome quality. Im liking what this new crew is doing to the series, as long as it doesnt turn into seed/gsd then ill be happy. So far it seems that Setsuna wont have a love interest. I cant see any of the girls in his age range[Wang(17),Louise(17),Felt(14)] ending up with him.Mariana is 24 so shes quite older then him and she seems more like an older sister if anything. I'd be glad if he didnt end up with anyone because I always hated the rule that the hero must have a woman thing in gundam.

[Ryllharu]

There is still a lot to do with skill. Did you forget about Setsuna's former mercenary/jihad leader? He didn't have an extremely tricked out Flag like Graham and he was far more effective at countering Setsuna. This is largely due to him being his teacher, but it does show that technology is not everything in this series.

Even Sergei used the dumpy HRL Generic Unit 07000 to put Setsuna into an uncomfortable position.

Now that the HRL and Union are coming up with better models, we should see the Gundams challenged quite a bit more.

[Yukimura]

Wasn't there something special about the mobile suit the AEU gave Ali? I remember it either being an experimental model or somehow customized to be better than a standard Enact. Anyway the way things have been established so far the current powers shouldn't be able to completely close the technology gap since that would require them to get GN particle technology. I don't think even the current CB actually understands how to create GN particles, just how to harness and utilize them.

00 is doing a decent job of making the pilots seem fallible and vulnerable, even to grunts, which is cool. But still the pilots don't completely suck, since awesome mechs with crappy pilots would just be depressing.

[TheBladeChild]

I just looked on Animenfo.com and it seems that S2 or Part 2 of this series will be released in October 2008, can anyone confirm this? If thats the case then S1/Part1 of this series will end about April. Dang 6 months gap is a long time. Well at least CG will start around that time. So I wont have nothing to watch

[Ryllharu]

There kind of has to be a break. Sunrise animates both Gundam and Code Geass. If one is starting up again in April, the other won't be running.

[masamuneehs]

I still don't understand how nobody is talking about Lockon's "twin brother" or whoever the guy hiding behind that tree at Lockon's parents' grave was.

Personally, I think it's an ultra lame plot device. It's like they're digging through some of the cheesiest anime character cliches ever. We have anti-social, robotic, emotionally challenged anti-hero protagonist who lets his emotions run wild. There's split personality who is also a designer baby and a reluctant fighter. We have a super femme who is also a complete asshole and stickler for the rules, probably because he feels guilt for some event that occurred before the series started and that he'll have to confront before the series end.

And we have the talkative "cool guy" who now also has a mysterious twn brother.

The main characters are seriously hodgepodges of absurdity.

[TheBladeChild]

I still don't understand how nobody is talking about Lockon's "twin brother" or whoever the guy hiding behind that tree at Lockon's parents' grave was.

Personally, I think it's an ultra lame plot device. It's like they're digging through some of the cheesiest anime character cliches ever. We have anti-social, robotic, emotionally challenged anti-hero protagonist who lets his emotions run wild. There's split personality who is also a designer baby and a reluctant fighter. We have a super femme who is also a complete asshole and stickler for the rules, probably because he feels guilt for some event that occurred before the series started and that he'll have to confront before the series end.

And we have the talkative "cool guy" who now also has a mysterious twn brother.

The main characters are seriously hodgepodges of absurdity.

Didnt you answer your own question? I dont find his brother particularly important and I agree with you that it is a lame plot device.

[Ryllharu]

But isn't that why we're attached to all the satellite characters? All of them have been far more interesting than anyone that actually pilots. We've got Soma and Sergei, the connection between Graham, Billy and Sumeragi, whatever screwed up way Louise fits into the story, Shirin (Marina's very politically savvy secretary), and all the other support characters that have proven more interesting.

I say let the pilots be lame cliches. They are only the blade that is directed by the rest of the cast.

[TheBladeChild]

But isn't that why we're attached to all the satellite characters? All of them have been far more interesting than anyone that actually pilots. We've got Soma and Sergei, the connection between Graham, Billy and Sumeragi, whatever screwed up way Louise fits into the story, Shirin (Marina's very politically savvy secretary), and all the other support characters that have proven more interesting.

I say let the pilots be lame cliches. They are only the blade that is directed by the rest of the cast.

Lol nicely put.

[masamuneehs]

I say let the pilots be lame cliches. They are only the blade that is directed by the rest of the cast.

do you really think that'll last though? (the part about them only being the blade). I dread the day when the pilots start spouting philisophical idealist nonsense and, in the words of the original Setsuna, "Acting on their emotions". Then again, it's possible I'm just completely expecting the worst because of how SEED turned out...

The main characters are the main for a reason. Even i'd be a bit pissed if they were pawns forever. I'm confident (and frightened) that they'll move on their own eventually.

[KrayZ33]

hmmm the pilots arn't japanese... at least not all of them

[Buffalobiian]

lame and boring may it be, I still hope they quickly explain Lockon's brother. Just why have they put him into this? I always thought the one under the tree was Lockon, since if he's with CB, he probably disappears now and then, or disappeared completely from everyone he previously knew, so when his brother came, he was surprised to actually see Lockon again.

[TheBladeChild]

Well I guess im ok with the break, it just means(I hope) that the quality of the anime is better.

[Kraco]

I'd be more surprised if none of the pilots had any siblings. People tend to have those, after all, except in China (and possibly Japan with it's ultra low birth rate).

[Naruto_RNG]

For the 1st time after watching so many gundam series, I want the gundams to fail, and this series might just as well give me that. A brutal utter defeat, by low class mobile suit. Very nice eps. I guess it finally gave the feeling to ppl who were waiting for the gundams to be in the "BAD" situation. again best eps so far, I know they're gona pull a 360 on us and gundams will win this somehow but I enjoyed my fill.

[shinta|hikari]

A 180. A 360 is a full rotation.

[Buffalobiian]

A 180. A 360 is a full rotation.

Didn't we have this argument somewhere before?

[shinta|hikari]

Haha, it wasnt with me though. I just read it before, with Ryll doing the arguing.

[Ryllharu]

I believe it was RyogaZell with whom I had the discussion. (If it wasn't, I'm sorry for thinking it was.)

However, careful wording does make a difference. A "turnabout" is definitely a 180. However, a "complete turnabout" can be both. From a literal standpoint, a "complete turnabout" is a 360. But from a literary standpoint, it still refers to a reversal, and thus a 180.

[Naruto_RNG]

I didn't mean to open up an argument. By saying 360 I meant to say that they have to come up with whole new plan to beat HRL which puts them back to squre 1 again, hence a full rotation. Sorry if it caused any confusion.