Parents, kids and discipline

[Sapphire]

@ Sapphire. Really, how is that gonna work, you think you're parents can stop you from doing anything. As in the examples you gave, all you talked about is if you did this your parents would do that to you and this to you so they basically controlled your life based on the fear of the consequences of your actions. There are some kids out there who just don't care about the consequences and do whatever the hell they please so like I said before it isn't anyone else's fault other than the kids themselves.

No I'm not afraid of punishment because I wouldn't do stupid things for the sheer logic that they are probably stupid. In fact I live life rather independently, and cringe at the thought of my parents controlling my life. I am sort of sad that many people live a life of horrible choices with no fear of consequences, but I will just wait patiently as they get what is coming to them. In my opinion at the very least people should refrain from doing things for fear of punishment, if not for the simple knowledge that it is wrong.

That last little story you wrote sounded like two people I know one would be my girlfriends family and despite growing up with them she didn't turn out anything like them or one of my best friends I went to highschool with when she was 15 her mom was 30 and her grandmother was 45 but she isn't anything like them and she certainly doesn't have any kids. So you guys could throw around blame all you want in the end it comes down to choices.

Okay, but too bad if you are born surrounded by bad choices then you are left to fend for yourself, with little to no distinction as a child to what is right or what is wrong (I am not referring to who you just talked about, I am just saying in general)

In the end it's all a matter of opinion, so I'm not going to force anyone ot agree with me, it's just a matter of my opinion.

[Buffalobiian]

No I'm not afraid of punishment because I wouldn't do stupid things for the sheer logic that they are probably stupid. In fact I live life rather independently, and cringe at the thought of my parents controlling my life. I am sort of sad that many people live a life of horrible choices with no fear of consequences, but I will just wait patiently as they get what is coming to them. In my opinion at the very least people should refrain from doing things for fear of punishment, if not for the simple knowledge that it is wrong.

I totally agree here. In early life, the closest things children interact with are family and media. Kids played with parents and watched TV all day. A lot of that lays the foundation for later thinking. Sure, when kids interact at school more and listen more and more to their friends instead of their parents, it has less and less effect, until the parent's influence is almost obsolete by early teens time. Question is, how much influence you can impart and maintain during those critical years. As Sapphire said, those kids will start off knowing what their parent's expectations are, and fear the consequence of deviating from it. Later on they find out as they watch their peers fall down in life one by one why their parents did that. They might not like the method. I didn't. But they will at least be thankful for the results it brought. When they reach parenthood, they'll find out there IS no other method pretty much.