One Piece Episode 442

[Sentenal]

I assume that while his body could move at the speed of light, his reactions are still limited by the speed of his own thought. His body can move fast enough, but if he can't think fast enough, he's not going to be able to get out of the way.

The only reason Logia's seem to be immune to bullets normally is because they're bodies apparently dissolve automatically.

Hmm, that almost seems like a plot hole at first. But when you think about it, shouldn't Brook die again if he falls in the ocean? If the fruit brought him back to life, and the sea negates the fruit then....

Didn't Enel allow someone to attack him while he was sleeping, and still avoid the attack due to his Logia-ness? Apparently his powers are trained enough so that he doesn't even need to think to use his powers.

[Kraco]

Sea is liquid so seastone can't be in there in overly high concentrations. It could be that falling into an ocean saps their strength far slower, and the inability to swim is a separate matter altogether, like a second weakness in addition to the seastone allergy.

[Assertn]

i don't think either de-fruits a user. However, Blackbeard's vortex on the other hand...
Would be interesting to see what that would do to Brooke.

[Kraco]

The whole issue gets highly dodgy when studied carefully in any case. There's no difference physically between getting hit by something or hitting something by yourself. So, if the reaction was 100% automatic and consistent, logia users could never right hook anybody. In fact, depending on the threshold, they might be unable to lift heavy objects, climb a rope, or do various other things where lots of pressure is directed at limited body area.

[Archangel]

I'll have to agree that it was comic relief

I think that Oda is enough of a good writer to know that logic shouldn't get in the way of a good joke

[Sentenal]

Auger is the sharpshooter from Blackbeard's group, right? I mean, I doubt he wasn't on guard when he finally confronted Blackbeard after chasing him down for so long. So that is a different situation from both Ace and Smoker getting caught off guard, and getting hit.

Also, I'd sooner put someone like Kizaru in the same league as Crocodile and Enel, than Smoker.

[DarthEnderX]

I dunno, I have a feeling Smoker will make Admiral someday. They haven't really shown yet of Luffy has just blown past him, or if he's been keeping pace with the main characters' growth. Won't know until we see him fight again.

[Archangel]

I dunno, I have a feeling Smoker will make Admiral someday. They haven't really shown yet of Luffy has just blown past him, or if he's been keeping pace with the main characters' growth. Won't know until we see him fight again.

Well duh? Smoker's relationship with Luffy is an obvious parallel to the one between Garp and Gold Roger, i'm sure that when Luffy finally becomes the Pirate King Smoker will be up there with the top brass

[Sentenal]

Smoker is my favorite marine, so hopefully down the line he becomes an admiral. Just saying at that point in Alabasta, he wasn't on the same level. IMO, at least.