Hinata's voice was unrecognisable at times. She sounded.. tough.
Never before have I wished more that collecting 9 Bijus would grant someone a wish.When she survived that first sickening drop, I had hope that she'd make it through - and then they brought out the impaling stick..
Goodbye Hinata /cry (they could have given you more awesome moves to show off before you went)
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If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I guess she was something of a failure as a ninja skills wise but ironically enough she displayed more courage than anybody in the village before the end. Anybody still alive, anyway.Originally Posted by Buffalobiian
... ... I don't know why this comment made this click in my mind, but...
Point 1) They are killing off people left and right. Including popular named/major characters
Point 2) They AREN'T doing multiple episodes of build up and backstory the way they did with Jiraya and Asuma.
These two things had lead me to point three which was:
Point 3) I don't beleive the characters are really dead (which may just be the fan-boy in me)
When it was just Kakashi, I was holding out hope for 'its only a critical injury'. But with Hinata added in... However, Buffalobiian's dragonball comment made me realize the critical:
Point 4) Pain knows how to bring dead bodies back to life. Sure those we've seen are being controlled, but do those he brings back have to be controlled? Maybe not!
Which leads me to pont 5:
Point 5) Pain will bring Kakashi and Hinata back to life. I don't know why or how yet (I'm hoping for 'Naruto pounds on him until he agrees to do it'), but it will happen. (ok, that may be the fanboy in me again, but I'm gonna be hoping for it.)
If Pain brings them back to life, it will certainly not be from Naruto beating him into submission.
The problem I see with that is if Nagato can bring people back 100%, why doesn't he relinquish Yahiko's body and use a different one?
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
Exactly. If he could bring Yahiko back to life for realreal I'm sure he would have.
I don't even think he can actually bring people back to life. Evidence seems to suggest that they bodies are just puppets. Corpses being controlled by chakra. The giant demon head seems to be able to repair the bodies if they become damaged, but doesn't actually bring them back to life.
I'm still not exactly sure which of Pains powers are from the Rinnegan at this point. It seems pretty obvious besides the shared perception thing that its also what allows him to generate the chakra waves that let him control his bodies.
Originally, I just thought that was it, and the different powers the different bodies had came from the bodies themselves. But since we now know that he just grabs a new body when one is lost and the new body gains the powers of the old one, it seems the powers of the individual bodies ALSO comes from the Rinnegan.
It's another stupid swiss army magic eye, just like the Sharingan...
remember the "Jiraiya's past" -episode? it showed all of Pain's bodies when they were still alive (i just rewatched it) and it seemed like some of them weren't even ninjas.
so it seems that it's just overpowered Rinnegan-power ;-)
I agree. But I can hope.
We still don't know why/how Yahiko ended up a pain body in the first place. Nagato was the peaceful, non-violent one, so something clearly happened to him between the time Jiraya left them and the present to provoke such a drastic change in him, something that still hasn't really been covered in the inevitable flashback/exposition. If Yahiko was involved in that something, there may be good reasons not to bring him back fully.
The rods also suppress the person they are inserted in, preventing them from acting - thus his rendering Naruto harmess (pre-bezerk 9 tail explosion) by stabbing him with them. To me that suggests that he is using them to override the bodies in order to take control, rather then just a new and improved puppet chakra string, which in turn suggests there is something there that needs to be suppressed.Those people he has brought back seem little more than remote controlled zombies. They can't even work without those rods, I believe. At least we saw the summoner woman had no sense of pain, which strongly speaks for non-complete resurrection.
That's a bunch of assumptions. First of them being that there's anything to suppress in the dead bodies. Suppressing Naruto might mean nothing else than that they interfere with his normal bodily functions, which would surely make sense even if they were nothing but remote control devices for zombie soldiers. We have seen the Pain Jiraiya captured was quite comatose when Nagato was nowhere in vicinity and did absolutely nothing after the rods were removed and Nagato arrived.
To be annoying and argue semantics - there being something in the dead bodies that needs to be suppressed in the conclusion I am drawing, not an assumption. The statement that the rods suppress someone is an assumption - as you pointed out, it could be simple interference rather then true suppression and I presented no evidence to support that statement. But an assumption is something that is believed or thought to be true where no evidence, support, or proof has been provided - a conclusion based on presented material by definition cannot be one. The fact that the presented material contains assumptions as part of its evidence means it might be wrong, but its still a conclusion, not an assumption. And everything else I said there is drawing on what was said before it as evidence presented before it. Therefor, everything else is a conclusion - a faulty conclusion? Maybe. I hope not, because I want Kakashi and Hinata to live, but I'm certainly willing to accept that I might be wrong. But they are not assumptions.Ok, I'll stop being annoying now before folks break out the rotten fruit and tar and feathers.
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