Says who? None of the Pains have used any elemental powers at all. He has 6 different powers. Nobody said he can use 6 elements(which, like Buff said, there aren't even 6).Originally Posted by Sam98034
So...AGAIN...way to try explain away the animators plot holes by pulling powers out of your ass.
Are you sure there isn't six? Why else was he called the sage of the six paths? Maybe there's a special 6th element? I smell a sequel to a old school movie with Bruce Willis.
Because he is/controls/becomes six entities that represent the six paths or domains in the Buddhist belief of reincarnation and suffering. (Additional information: Buddhists believe that only through enlightenment can one escape from this cycle of suffering)
The five elements are: Earth, Fire, Water, Lighting and Wind.
Elements have never been known as "paths".
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
I'm pretty sure Jiraiya said that Nagato was able to learn *all* *6* ElementsSays who? None of the Pains have used any elemental powers at all. He has 6 different powers. Nobody said he can use 6 elements(which, like Buff said, there aren't even 6).
So...AGAIN...way to try explain away the animators plot holes by pulling powers out of your ass.
and if Nagato is able to use all 6 elements, then there is absolutely no reason for Pain not to use them too, because after all, he is controlled by nagato's CHAKRA.
problem solved! no plothole
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 07-12-2010 at 05:45 AM.
I vaguely remember him saying that Nagato remembered every justu he taught him, maybe even elements.. but he sure as hell never mentioned six elements.
If it's not Isuzu-chan Mii~
rewatched it, its episode 131
"He who possessed the same pupils as the Sage of the Six Paths
not only mastered every Jutsu I thought him, he demonstrated the ability to achieve all *SIX* changes in Chakra Nature." etc etc.
-Crunchyroll Subs (I'm 100% sure Taka also subbed it like that)
the 6th is probably "Yin-Yang recomposition" as Kakashi stated when he exlpained the whole element-stuff
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 07-12-2010 at 09:15 AM.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Nature_...on#Basic_Types
There are five basic types into which the nature of chakra can be transformed, called the Five Elements Nature TransformationsAside from the five basic types of nature transformation, there is also a sixth type: the transformation of the Yin (陰, In) and Yang (陽, Yō) nature of chakra.
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So basically the light/dark chakra. Is Shikimaru the only example of that, with his shadow bind techniques?
Fits him well with the whole 'Knight' analogy. Light/Dark has no weakness, but no strength either, against the other natures.
Quite the convenient plot hole
Wasn't the 6th like.... crystals or some shit?
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
Well, the Crystal user was a filler character, so I doubt it.
Yin and Yang count?
I always assumed that these were more like "attributes" that didn't class as "nature" manipulation.
But if it says so, I stand corrected (regarding the number of natural elements chakra can be manipulated into)
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Guys... there`s only 5 elements, are we really arguing this? what Jiraiya said is probably a mistranslation and he probably meant the 6 characteristic abilities he seems to have.
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there are 5 "elements", but there are 6 ways for you to transform chakra. or something like that...
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no,
nagato did fire, earth and water jutsus when jiraiya said that...
and why would 2 different sub groups (one of them are official) sub it as "6"?
what do you mean by "6 characteristic abilities" are you talking about what the 6 pains can do? that would make no sense at all.
Last edited by KrayZ33; Mon, 07-12-2010 at 11:38 AM.
At this point, it just feels like this argument isn't going anyplace anymore.
The oddness of the fact that there are so many people here trying DESPERATELY to defend filler content leads me to believe that it's a bunch of manga readers who know the manga proves them right in the future, but right now, the evidence for their argument doesn't exist yet.
What does the manga translate it as?
Last edited by DarthEnderX; Mon, 07-12-2010 at 04:38 PM.
i thought that crystal junk was a bloodline thing. or some odd combination of elements.. But yeah, filler character anyways.
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and there is no real evidence which proves us wrong eitherbut right now, the evidence for their argument doesn't exist yet.
and you are assuming things yourself, you believe that the push can't be sustained
so does that mean that pain knows some flying jutsu? or why is he able to slowly push himself up to the sky while floating midair?
and a push that can't be sustained would mean that it is nothing more than a punch, yet when choji and his father attacked him, they were trying to keep rolling forward instead of being pushed away instantaneous
I don't know, I would have no problem to look it up somewhere if I knew what chapter it is thoughWhat does the manga translate it as?
Last edited by KrayZ33; Tue, 07-13-2010 at 04:09 PM.
Except for several characters saying so.
Granted, those characters could be wrong, but if I have to choose between believing things said by characters and believing...nothing, I'm going to believe the characters until new evidence says otherwise.
You guys are missing it completely. Kishi is a *HUGE* fan of Captain Planet. The 6th element is LOVE. It lets you talk to animals like the cursed seal guy, Juugo, in Sasuke's group.
Oh, yeah. Spoiler.
Did I do that right?
/sarcasm
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