Hunter x Hunter 2011

[Kraco]

Maybe I've missed something, but I can't find anywhere that the bombs are nuclear...

It's true that now that we know those cheap-efficient bombs were used a lot, I doubt they are nuclear ones.
I mean, is it that interresting to wipe cities clean if you can't reclaim the freed space?

Come on, people. They are small enough to fit in a suitcase, not the size of a huge truck. The metallic cylinder attached to the bomb (implosion device) was like straight out of a James Bond movie. The detonation itself: the blinding light, the blast blowing first out, then the air coming back in, and lastly the mushroom cloud. They are all textbook nuclear weapon descriptions. We even had a lake of lava as a bonus... We saw the whatever international assembly scene trying to ban the weapons. Whenever would nations try to ban ordinary explosives? Not that there would be ordinary weapons able to destroy a whole town.

So, unless HxH has a new branch of physics in addition to the nen powers, this was a nuclear weapon of the simple linear implosion kind since it was called cheap.

The only time nukes have been used in a war in our world certainly showed the user is not interested in reclaiming the freed space. A terrorist also wouldn't be interested in it, since a terrorist is only interested in generating terror in their enemies, like the name implies.

[MFauli]

Oh man, such a great episode. Even though no fighting happened.
Since I happened to watch the preview, this is a warning:









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Man, it´d suck incredibly if the king recovers from that. But the preview kinda implies exactly that, with Pouf and Youpi being so full of joy :/

But damn, Gon is sooo fantastic. You say it was predictable, but I don´t think that´s true. THAT Gon threatening to kill a weak girl? Taking her hostage? Nah, that´s incredibly character development. I also loved how Komugi didnt understand a thing, and was basically left to think of our heroes as villains.

Best scene: When Gon calls Pitou just that. Not "Neferpitou", just Pitou. Sure, they used abbreviations before, but not this "in your face". It felt like an insult, like a slap in her face, that she could not return that moment.

Last but not least: When Pitou was standing there behind Gon, her figure was super-sexy. @anonymous neg-repper: I´d have infinite numbers of butt sex with her if she really had a dick. That´s how much it doesnt matter lol

Still, I hope the king truly is dead. Would make this anime/manga even better than it already is. Seriously, a shounen series where the main villain is off-ed not by one of the main characters? Would be so refreshing and unique. Also, there´s the little problem about what the heck Knuckle, Killua and Co. would do if the king returns. Seriously, they´d be utterly screwed haha. They´ll have enough to handle with just Youpi, let alone Pouf.

[DarthEnderX]

I'm with Kraco on this one. The Little Flower shows all of the tropes of being a nuclear bomb.

That said, we still don't know if radiation even effects the ants. If it does though, Pouf and Youpi would also be pretty much done for at this point. Crawling around inside a nuke's molten crater is pretty much a death sentence.


Also, at this point, I feel like they've kind of defused the climactic battle between Gon and Pitou. Because Pitou simply isn't going to fight Gon now that they've taken Komugi hostage.

My assumption is that Pitou is going to somehow find out the King is dead and go berserk. Then we'll get our climactic battle.

[MFauli]

About the bomb: The flashback about this kind of bomb made it seem like a nuke, but nukes don´t turn the ground into lava, right? So I´m leaning towads no, the little rose is not a nuclear weapon.

My assumption is that Pitou is going to somehow find out the King is dead and go berserk. Then we'll get our climactic battle.

Well, ants communicate by telepathy, right?

[Kraco]

About the bomb: The flashback about this kind of bomb made it seem like a nuke, but nukes don´t turn the ground into lava, right? So I´m leaning towads no, the little rose is not a nuclear weapon.

So, it's something even more terrible than a nuclear weapon in your opinion, huh?

The lake of lava was just artistic lisence by the author. A nuke does melt the surface of the ground and for example turn suitable silicon containing sand into glass like substance when it cools down. I reckon Togashi (assuming this was in the manga as well) wanted to create a more dramatic effect for the King's downfall. To create such a lake in the first place, I think one would need a sustained energy source, not one lasting a second, or possibly something humongous.

[MFauli]

So, it's something even more terrible than a nuclear weapon in your opinion, huh?

Depends. As you said, this little rose-bomb must have had sustained power, something more focused, to the point. A nuke goes of an bursts away everything, makes it crumble. This little rose, however, kept heating its environment until stone was turned to lava. Now, this is a dumb comparison, because a nuke would easily blow off as much of an area as this little rosa AND have the effect of deadly radiation. So even when I´m saying that yes, the little rose is in ways superior to a nuke, a nuke is still more destructive.

Where I´d see the advantage for the little rose is against an enemy that might regenerate. Basically, I´d use it against someone like Cell or Majin Buu. Goku´s genkidama basically was a sustained force, as opposed to the usual hit-and-explode-attacks like a kamehameha.

[DarthEnderX]

Well, ants communicate by telepathy, right?

Supposedly the King and the Royal guard can't. Because they're the most human.

but nukes don´t turn the ground into lava, right?

Pretty sure anything that burns at thousands of degrees(which a nuclear explosion does) will turn the ground into lava.

Salamander monster? Argh, memories of Voyager.

Not a salamander. A Salamander.

[poopdeville]

Pretty sure anything that burns at thousands of degrees(which a nuclear explosion does) will turn the ground into lava.

Yeah, but the specific heat of rock matters. There's only so much heat a rock can absorb in a short amount of time.

http://www.hscott.net/analyzing-trin...clear-history/

That said, Chernobyl's accident melted lots of concrete and rocks.

[Kraco]

That said, Chernobyl's accident melted lots of concrete and rocks.

Power plant accidents can last for years like in Japan currently. Explosions aren't of nuclear type per se, rather just pressure from boiling coolant and such. Also, a power plant reactor would have hundreds of times more fuel than a nuke, whose core might only be the size of a tennis ball.

[Kraco]

Nah, all the explosions we saw in the episode were those identical to nukes. That's why the lake of lava is in fact impossible unless there was an underground reservoir of something that started to burn really hot, ignited by the nuke. Or if the area was volcanic naturally and the nuke in fact caused a mantle plume to rupture, allowing magma to form a lake of true lava.

But I'd still place my bets on it just being artistic lisence taken to make the King's fate more terrible. I wouldn't expect this to have any deeper meaningfulness in the story afterwards, unless Youpi manages to mutate himself into some salamander monster using the lake.

[poopdeville]

Salamander monster? Argh, memories of Voyager.

[poopdeville]

Just a head's up, but Togashi is back. There will be new manga next month.

[Kraco]

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Netero shouldn't have been such a cheapskate. A few kilotons more would have done the trick. Still, the King is a real monster to revive even from such a sorry state. I don't really see how they could ever hope to vanquish him after this without a mystic nen power instead of physical one. Assuming they need to beat him anymore. His personality didn't seem to have changed that much, though, so he ought to be a danger still.

It was quite funny Pouf actually believed he could eliminate anybody with his partial clone in such a short time. He expected Komugi to be still in the same room, yet that would have meant Gon would be there as well. Pouf wouldn't have had a snowball's chance against Gon. He might have lost too many brain cells by feeding himself to the King.

[MFauli]

Ok, this is now boring. I dont see any scenario where any of the remaining heroes could be capable of defeating the king, who´s now even stronger than before fighting Netero. Now it´s all set to end in a peaceful way, someone talking the king into giving up his cruel plans. Like, Komugi saying something and then the king falls in love with her and decides to be a couple or something lol. I also thought that maybe Killua could stall the king by using Komugi as a hostage, but I don´t see it. The king is too fast, too deadly, he´d simply dash over, grab Komugi and kill Killua, all in the tenth of the blink of an eye.

My prediction:

- king will stop his plans because of Komugi
- Pouf will be killed by the king when his mind games are revealed somehow
- Youpi stays loyal to the king and whatever he decides
- Pitou is either killed by Gon or beaten but alive and joins Youpi and the king
- the end

Now, what I´d want to happen is that the king remembers everything and is as villainous as ever. But then we arrive at the problem: WHO can beat him? Netero couldn´t. I don´t see the Zaoldyeks being able to. The spiders are below his level, too, outside of some special ability of Crolo´s.

No, I don´t see it. Shitty peaceful solution it is.

[DarthEnderX]

That was the gayest thing ever.

Ugh. It sucks that the King got amnesia, basically just to undo all of his character development.

For a while there I was CERTAIN the King was just going to finish eating Pouf and Youpi.

- king will stop his plans because of Komugi

This.

Near as I can tell we've got two fights left:

Gon Vs. Pitou

And Pouf's Clone vs. the rest, who should be winnable for them because the clone only has a fraction of Pouf's power. And since Bankruptcy is apparently transferred from the clone to the real Pouf, defeating the clone means defeating Pouf entirely.

[gos27]

Well that was a load of bullshit.

[shinta|hikari]

Yeah, I didn't like the developments in this episode. All of a sudden, feeding the king regenerates him? I'd understand passing the powers because that was mentioned before, but if the king can regenerate from eating, the entire arm surgery thing that even allowed all these events to happen is now completely superficial.

I actually hope some random OP hunter just pawns the king. Or they use a nuke 100x the power of the last one. I just want this arc to be over. The only interesting thing here now is Gon's fight, which I don't actually want to happen because Nef is gonna die.

[DarthEnderX]

All of a sudden, feeding the king regenerates him?

I think it was WHAT he was being fed that allowed him to heal. I doubt he would have recovered if they'd just fed him some cheeseburgers.

[shinta|hikari]

Well, of course. What I am questioning is HOW feeding is causing regeneration. We have never seen any chimera ant do that before.

I would have liked some foreshadowing of this regeneration effect. If anything, Nef's arm operation on the king actually made this less believable.

[Buffalobiian]

Well, of course. What I am questioning is HOW feeding is causing regeneration. We have never seen any chimera ant do that before.

I would have liked some foreshadowing of this regeneration effect. If anything, Nef's arm operation on the king actually made this less believable.

Well there's no need for the king to eat someone if his arms' just lying there waiting to be stitched. Pouf made a ditch effort that may or may not have worked. It banked on the idea that when the king eats he "absorbs someone's power for himself". I think the guards were mostly afraid the king was going to die from blood loss the time he chopped off his arm, not that he couldn't regenerate it himself.

The point of that scene was that he was offering his arm as a sign of his disrespect. The conceded when the guards cried to repair him.

I'm rather glad Pouf is still scheming. It keeps things interesting because I don't know what else will, really. That said, the beginning of the episode was pretty hilarious.