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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Right, because those are totally comparable. A scientific fact and a fictional situation that the author has never bothered to clarify.
    In a forum about anime, itīs similarily important, yes.
    Still waiting for poopdeville to reply.

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    I'm really hoping that he's taking the high road and not dignifying you with a response.

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    Can i get some goddamn moderating in this thread already?

    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    I call bullshit on this because without this powerup, Gon would have been totally dead here. Pitou was about to straight up fucking murder him, so he sacrificed nothing he wasn't about to lose anyway.

    So you can absolutely bullshit your own Nen.
    Are you for real? The point is that Gon went into that situation already prepared for what was coming, giving it all up for power wasn't exactly something he came up with on the spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Yes, because HIS statement was reasonable and elaborate, and my reaction was irrational and silly, right?
    No, you're both being ridiculous. So whichever one of you is the first one to drop it is the less retarded one.

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    Itīs like you want the gotwoot-forum to die. For once, an interesting discussion is blooming, and itīs attempted to be shot down.
    If this is the only kind of conversation GotWoot can support anymore, than it's already dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel View Post
    The point is that Gon went into that situation already prepared for what was coming, giving it all up for power wasn't exactly something he came up with on the spot.
    Bullshit. They even showed you the EXACT moment where Gon stopped caring if he lived or died anymore, and it was right AFTER Pitou told him she was going to kill him.

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    I don't think Gon was trying to game the nen system. He does everything with maximum resolve. So when he stopped caring and decided to kill Pitou, he rashly and resolutely decided to fuck it all.

    I also think any nen user can trade in all of his nen for "one last shot". But it's basically a suicide attack. If you run completely out of nen, you die. And if you don't use it all, you risk not killing the enemy off. Netero did this. Remember how old he got when he did the Buddha-laser thing? He just had a few minutes to live, at best, before setting off the rose.http://www.mangahere.co/manga/hunter...8/c297/15.html
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    I don't find this to be bullshit, restrictions aren't new we've seen the power-up its given to Kurripaca (he can take on the Phantom Troupe). It's been acknowledged previously that Gon has a deep well of power, he's instantly accessed it by placing a severe restriction on himself (said in this episode that he will never be able to use nen again). It's not like anyone can do this, because almost noone else likely has this vast reserve of talent/power.

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    Man, we haven't seen Leorio in ages...he didn't even have Nen the last time we saw him!

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    It's not like anyone can do this, because almost noone else likely has this vast reserve of talent/power.
    If the argument here is that doing this allows a person to access all of the power they're ever going to have at once, then yes, it would work much BETTER for someone like Gon than it would for a less talented person, but you'd still think that in a "definitely gonna die" situation, more people would do it.

    Sure, the powerup for someone mediocre like, say, Pokkle, wouldn't be as impressive as it would for Gon, but it would be a powerup non-the-less. It might not even make you strong enough to win, but if you're going to die anyway, there's no reason NOT to do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penner View Post
    I always keep wondering in the back of my mind about what the hell all the other powerhouses of the HxH world(people like Gon's dad, other 'high-ranking' hunters etc) is doing during all of this instead of helping to take down Meruem.
    Gon's dad was building VR worlds, like, a decade ago. He's probably exploring Mars or some shit by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poopdeville View Post
    Netero did this. Remember how old he got when he did the Buddha-laser thing? He just had a few minutes to live, at best, before setting off the rose.http://www.mangahere.co/manga/hunter...8/c297/15.html
    Gon aside since nothing changed for Gon but his body and the maximum limits, so he just powered up what he already had, Netero's laser attack was totally different from the slapping the buddha statue was doing up until that point. I find it quite hard to believe Netero wouldn't have practiced that attack before when he was developing it. He might have put more power into it this time, but he was a very old man in any case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    (said in this episode that he will never be able to use nen again)
    Said by the foremost expert in nen: A few months old ant. You know, Gon himself knows many times more about nen than Pitou ever did.

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    I always keep wondering in the back of my mind about what the hell all the other powerhouses of the HxH world(people like Gon's dad, other 'high-ranking' hunters etc) is doing during all of this instead of helping to take down Meruem.

    Whatever they are up to it must be really fucking important lol


    edit: Speaking of what other characters are doing, now i'm also wondering what the hell Kurapica and Leorio is up to :P
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    Maybe they are such powerhouses that Meruem (and Netero) are actually inconsequential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Maybe they are such powerhouses that Meruem (and Netero) are actually inconsequential.
    This is a good point. I really wonder how important this event was in the HxH world.

    Chimera ants are clearly very dangerous animals that shouldn't be allowed to spread. It's reasonable to think that the Hunters would take part in their containment.

    But the country is pretty much out in bumfuck nowhere, and if i remember correctly this region rejects any sort of modern technology and that was one of the reason that the chimera ants was able to take over so easily. So i wonder how many other world powers even really cares enough to actually send someone to deal with the whole situation.

    I mean, the chimera basically took over the HxH version of North Korea. So i really wonder who even really cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Dragon View Post
    But the country is pretty much out in bumfuck nowhere, and if i remember correctly this region rejects any sort of modern technology and that was one of the reason that the chimera ants was able to take over so easily.
    Technically, that's the next country over, where the ant's hive was. That was basically Amish country run by drug lords.

    The country they're in now is just a stereotypical 3rd world dictatorship.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    In context of the information we have in this battle, I don't see any reason to assume Pitou is full of shit considering she figured out nen all on her own and opened up every other ant's ability to use it.
    Technically, Pitou's entire conclusion seems to be based on how powerful Gon has become. Her logic was "You can't obtain this much strength without sacrificing everything". But maybe she just thinks that based on her own power, and maybe tMeruem's.

    It's possible that Gon really is so powerful that he CAN obtain that much strength and not have to have sacrificed it all to get. He might be in a completely different league than Pitou or even Meruem. Which would make Pitou's conclusion not applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Maybe they are such powerhouses that Meruem (and Netero) are actually inconsequential.
    If the other high-level hunters/fighters of the world are actually THAT strong then why couldn't one or some of them basically just quickly swing by and 1shot the king and his guards, then let the weaker guys mop up the rest while they continue on their merry way lol

    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    And they can nuke them to death anytime they want to. It's cheap ya?
    Hmm, i guess that's always an option if shit goes completely tits-up lol
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    And they can nuke them to death anytime they want to. It's cheap ya?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    And they can nuke them to death anytime they want to. It's cheap ya?
    Was that an option they discussed using on the Chimera Ants if it got too out of hand? I can't recall that being mentioned.

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    They could have done that already if they just rigged Netero's duel area with nukes instead of (or in conjunction to) planting a suicide bomb on Netero.

    I find it funny how the author explicitly mentioned that the nukes are cheap, only to make his own plot development cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DE
    Man, we haven't seen Leorio in ages...he didn't even have Nen the last time we saw him!
    He did. He was showing off his Nen and the other three went "Oh, that thing..."

    I don't believe Zero-hand kills the user per se. It uses all the energy they could use (without dying, if you wanted to..) in give-it-all attack. Netero was a dying man because:

    a) He was already half a millennium old, with Nen being the thing that kept him alive for so long and
    b) He no longer had the energy to close off his blood vessels and was bleeding to death.

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    I think it makes sense to clarify, to me it didn't seem like Gon intentionally "flipped a switch" and placed the nen restriction on himself. It simply looked like he became so emotionally unstable that by nature he powered up, not by active choice. Yeah he says "I don't care anymore" but there's a progression of him losing his sanity, which is why it isn't "bs that anyone can just do since they're going to die anyway". Maybe someone like Netero can do this by choice but I doubt anyone else has the ability to give up all their power for one shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnage View Post
    Maybe someone like Netero can do this by choice but I doubt anyone else has the ability to give up all their power for one shot.
    Who's giving up all of their power for one shot? There's no evidence that's what Gon is doing, apart from the opinion of his enemy who knows far less about nen than Gon. Moreover, from a purely practical point of view, how exciting will the rest of the story be if Gon loses his nen powers here? As far as I know, this isn't the end of HxH. Gon hasn't even met his old man yet, despite the fact he stupidly, or gonnishly, thinks Kite being dead is the end of the world.

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    The core of this problem appears to be: If someone can just achieve such monstrous power by giving up his own life, why doesnīt everyone do it in face of an overwhelming enemy? It seems logical for me to assume that itīs not as easy as to decide doing that. It makes more sense to assume that it is a result of Gonīs natural talent. Even Netero didnīt really achieve anything by talent, he got stronger by pure repetition and dedication. So, Gonīs transformation is THAT special.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Moreover, from a purely practical point of view, how exciting will the rest of the story be if Gon loses his nen powers here?
    In my opinion? Very exciting, since itīd mean heīd have to find new ways to compete with nen-users.

    As an aside, finally some positive reputation for me, on the topic of Pitou:

    I'd hit it.

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