Naruto Chapter 566

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a) Naruto still kinda sucked after the time skip, despite training with Jiraiya for 3 years

Sure, why not, but he got much better ever since.

c) Sasuke defeated Deidara

So...? Deidara wasn`t exactly the strongest akatsuki member.

d) Akatsuki-members were downgraded to "just" strong criminals instead of being those uber-monsters that they were presented as before the time skip

Out of all 10 members, which one was underwhelming to you? besides Deidara i guess...

e) mere ninjas could suddenly fight with bijuus, even defeating them. So much for those "powerful" monsters

Out of the top of my head, i can think of mostly Akatsuki members defeating Tailed beasts, you`re complaining about them being too strong but you complained about them being too weak before...?

f) Orochimaru was killed as a by-product

After Sasuke`s training was over, Orochimaru served absolutelly NO purpose in the story.

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Sure, why not, but he got much better ever since.

So...? Deidara wasn`t exactly the strongest akatsuki member.

Out of all 10 members, which one was underwhelming to you? besides Deidara i guess...

Out of the top of my head, i can think of mostly Akatsuki members defeating Tailed beasts, you`re complaining about them being too strong but you complained about them being too weak before...?

After Sasuke`s training was over, Orochimaru served absolutelly NO purpose in the story.

You´re missing the point in all of these. Sure Naruto got stronger over the course of the events following the tim skip. But three years with Jiraiya and no significant progress? That´s just bad writing. Same with Deidara. It doesn´t matter that he was the weakest Akatsuki-member. He still WAS a member of Akatsuki, a group of hyped-up monster ninjas. And he wasn´t just defeated, Sasuke actually overwhelmed him. Shit was ridiculous. Which member underwhelmed me? All of them, except Pain. No Akatsuki-member should have been managable by one or two ninjas. They were supposed to be monsters. Which then explains why them taking down bijuus made no sense anymore, leaving aside that even Sasuke took one down. As for the last point: So Orochimaru serves no more purpose, let´s assume that was true. So what, kill off one of the most impressionable villains of the forever, that we have followed for year? Without an epic finish? It was pathetic, both how Orochimaru was killed and how Kishimoto wrote that scene.

[UChessmaster]

So Jiraiya was not the best teacher ever, was that really so surpsising?

Sasuke didn`t overhwelmed Deidara, he barely defeated him and merely survived because he was plot protected, i think at that point Kishi wanted Sasuke to be a big threat to Naruto, what better way to rank Sasuke up than by defeating Deidara?

Akatsuki members... Sasori had the disadvantage of fighting his grandma who knew most of his techniques and used her string to control Sakura, he still manage to fatally wound one of them, it`s also heavily implied (and i believe this to be true) that he actually let himself get killed.

Hidan: Succesfully defeated the Yugito and killed Asuma, Shikamaru simply outsmarted him because that`s what he does, he`s the smartest person in the show and possibly the whole ninja world, it was impossible to expect Hidan to win when Shikamaru knew all of his techniques and did some hardcore preparation.

Kakuzu: He took a small fleet of ninjas and got hit by Naruto`s OP technique.

Konnan: Pwned by fake Madara

I already adressed Deidara.

Kisame: Defeated the 5 and 8 tails, turned a fail into a win by making them believe he died and infiltrated Naruto and Bee`s hideout.

Itachi: Let himself get killed for Sasuke...

Zetsu is a freaking army. A. FREAKING. ARMY.

Yeah, pushovers alright.

Orochimaru: The other option was keeping him alive and have him turn into a caricature of a villian by frecuently trying to get Sasuke`s body, get defeated and escape with 1 hp claiming that this is only a minor setback. Oro was iconic yes, but he was weak, the other characters were growing exponentially while he simply did not, he needed to go, it took balls to kill him and i appreciate characters actually dying when they`re past their expiration date.