Psycho-Pass

[Yukimura]

I would agree that the first half of the show felt like it was building to something big and meaningful and the second half didn't pay off nearly as expected, but at the same time I can't say I didn't like what we did get and don't appreciate it. All in all I think it was a good show and worth the time spent watching and thinking about it.

After a lot of pondering and trying to look back on the show through the lens of the first episode as the final scene reminded me to do, I realized that the only characters that really grew or changed in the whole series were Akane and Ginoza. When I think about everything that happened in just the terms of those two I find I like the show overall a lot more. Makishima and Kogami were like avatars of different ideologies fighting it out the 'old' way and while their battle was intense and interesting ultimately it was a traditional example of two sides who want opposing things battling it out the traditional way of get him before he gets you. Where the goods of the series seem to be though is in seeing how Akane and Ginoza, as products of and proponents for the third option represented by Sybil, dealt with and were changed by interacting with the traditional bad guy role played out by Makishima and the traditional good guy role taken up by Kogami.

In the end Akane was not tempted into taking up one of the traditional sides and maintained her dedication to the third option despite much loss and angst. I'm not sure how to read Ginoza's shift but I'd like to believe that despite his crime coefficient going up he still believes in the ideals driving third option and is willing to help enforce them, but he's just become too aware now how ugly the world that the system is trying to cover up is to go back to just being another cog in the machine. Maybe he has the potential to become the another rogue like Kogami, but my hope is that he's become closer to the ideal Enforcer who can't be a part of the system proper but can still protect it from others who want to go against it.

And then in keeping Kogami alive and free I think they were throwing a bone to the notion that as long as the system isn't perfect and people like Makishima can pop up you'll need Kogami's out there as well to try and counter them.

[Kraco]

And then in keeping Kogami alive and free I think they were throwing a bone to the notion that as long as the system isn't perfect and people like Makishima can pop up you'll need Kogami's out there as well to try and counter them.

I'm not so sure about that. After all, the system has a need or at least can put to work the aberrations (like Makishima) if it can catch them alive, to perfect itself further. So a person like Kogami is in fact an enemy of the system. He's not really a relic of the past either because a field execution has never been the style of any proper justice system. I'd say he's a reminder of the imperfection of the system, but not a solution. A person like Akane (who actually has a working detective's brain) is the solution as long as the system continues to exist.

But then again, Kogami might have been just a one-hit-wonder, so maybe as long as the pray wouldn't be Makishima, he wouldn't actually try to be the prosecutor, the judge, and the executioner all in one, so you could still be correct.

[Buffalobiian]

A person like Akane (who actually has a working detective's brain) is the solution as long as the system continues to exist.

I think you rated her a bit too highly there. She performed well in this last case because she knows how Kogami thinks, not because she's that good at thinking like criminals per se. She'll still gets somewhere by constantly asking "what would Kogami think" whenever she hits a roadblock - but she'll only be able to mimic what she's learned from Kogami thus far. Kogami's a natural. She's trying to copy the natural.

[Kraco]

Hah. Let's not forget she has been working for the agency for how long? A few months at best? She's as green as one can be yet already was far better than Gino by simply asking herself "what would Kogami do"? The Sybil also gave her the perfect score, allowing great many positions in high places to choose from. She was too passive in many of the episodes, but I think that's only because she's so new and because there were people above her, so it's easy to fall into thinking someone will surely come up with a better solution than a newbie. However, this very last hunt for both Kogami and Makishima showed her true talent that also included fast thinking and quite a bit of courage and independence.

So, give her a couple of years, and she'll be a lot better than Kogami. Simply because Kogami was an enforcer and his hands were tied because of it. A lot of Kogami's drive also came from hunting Makishima. We have no idea how he's post-Makishima. Other than that he's reading classics...

[Munsu]

Began watching Psycho-Pass last night and really like it, up to episode 9 right now.

Without looking too much into it, seems like there's a movie and a secondary series in development... wonder what the plans for them are.

[Archangel]

Psycho Pass is pretty good if a bit predictable

[Buffalobiian]

Lately Urobuchi Gen tends to write good developments but falls flat on the finale, which leaves me with an aftertaste of slight disappointment.

(note: personal experience with the anime works of his I've seen - perhaps a wider sample including his VN works etc would grant a different view)

[Munsu]

And done watching, and really liked this one. Looking forward to the sequel/s.

Lately Urobuchi Gen tends to write good developments but falls flat on the finale, which leaves me with an aftertaste of slight disappointment.

(note: personal experience with the anime works of his I've seen - perhaps a wider sample including his VN works etc would grant a different view)

I think you've just described the entire entertainment industry, anime in particular.

[Munsu]

Any of you watching Psycho-Pass: Extended Edition? Just curious if it's worth watching or if it has anything new of substance.

[Kraco]

Any of you watching Psycho-Pass: Extended Edition? Just curious if it's worth watching or if it has anything new of substance.

No. If I recall correctly, it might have a few scenes added, but I didn't consider that worth rewatching the whole thing at this point. I rather decided to wait for the second season that's launching next month.

[Xelbair]

Supossedly it changes some small details, which will be very important in s2 - i'll go and marathon it.

Urobutcher fails at endings. always.
i know only two exceptions - one short equilibrium fanfic VN by him(which was very good) and fate zero.

[Munsu]

Supossedly it changes some small details, which will be very important in s2 - i'll go and marathon it.

Urobutcher fails at endings. always.
i know only two exceptions - one short equilibrium fanfic VN by him(which was very good) and fate zero.

Yeah, I read something to that regard, that there may be some small changes and that's the only thing that worries me in particularly if those changes will have a connection on events of season 2.

[Kraco]

S2 Episode 1 - HS







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A pretty good start with stuff happening immediately. Even if it felt like everything prior to the post-ED part was half made to depict how highly competent and insightful our little Akane-chan has become. Though I'm not being sarcastic; she truly showed how to work with the flawed Sybil system to make the right choices, not blindly following the ones the computer is giving. In addition to having her other instincts really sharp. Naturally we then got, post-ED, a scene of somebody putting the system to a worse use. This wouldn't be Psycho-Pass otherwise. I look forward to seeing how Akane is using her time outside of these emergency missions. Is she trying to track down Kogami and on the other hand trying to affect the society in some way? She knows better than most the system is far from perfect.

[shinta|hikari]

That was excellent.

It would have been perfect with even a second of Kogami in it.

What the hell is up with Psycho Pass and incompetent juniors? It is almost like they are promoting value due to seniority.

[neflight86]

I think Akane was just that good in a one in a million way. The new inspector has been with them for 1&1/2 years and is still stuck on the notion of using enforcers as 'shields' and full faith in Sybil while the old crew (aside from immature Gino) spoke of Sibyl's judgments sarcastically at best.

I guess you really do have to be able to think like a criminal to be... at all clever.

[shinta|hikari]

Rather than Akane being capable, everyone else just sucks. I could have deduced everything she did given the same information, and I'm no detective.

This makes sense though because of the Sybil system. It simply invites rot.

[Buffalobiian]

I guess you really do have to be able to think like a criminal to be... at all clever

That's one way to put it. At the very least, if you are unable to think like a criminal (Ginoza was kind of like that last season), then you're narrow minded.

What the hell is up with Psycho Pass and incompetent juniors?

I think juniors in general are less competent. I'm thankful for that, in a few ways.

The junior here is more like the old Ginoza though, where he did everything by the book/hierarchy. She's incompetent in a narrow-minded way. Akari in S1 was more naive, but you didn't really feel that Gino was more competent. (unless you're saying that Akari seemed incompetent compared to Kogami). I'm looking forward to see what Gino brings to the table in S2.For starters, he's no longer wearing his glasses. The natural answer is to say that it having his eyesight corrected surgically is more practical as an Enforcer. Symbolically you can say that he's taken to seeing the world with his own eyes these days.

[shinta|hikari]

Each time I was a junior, I have been more competent than my senior. Seniority is meaningless.

[Kraco]

Each time I was a junior, I have been more competent than my senior. Seniority is meaningless.

Well, based on the list in the Pit of the things you'd like to do (but fortunately don't), I'd say you are 100% capable of thinking like a criminal, so it's no wonder.

[Edort4]

Some1 thinks too highly of himself lol. Dont believe all your grandma (or ego) tells you. I think that this was a rather bland/weak start for a second season. Episode felt rushed and the next "bad guy" appearence forced.