Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
Lest we forget, this guy could utilize 4 of the 6 rokushiki techniques, and he was a total scrub back then.
That seems like evidence at a first glance - until you remember the whole Amazon Lily island can use haki. So, it's really nothing so uber special.

Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
Plus, hasn't any of the CP9 members used shigan on Luffy and have it bounce off him to no effect? I know Lucci was an exception, but he had to use his animal form to be able to pierce Luffy.
Haha, yeah. I was trying to think back to that earlier, but, alas, my memory fails me so miserably I couldn't recall anything so specific from the arc. Though I still don't know why Lucci would be an exception intrinsically (considering this haki/not haki discussion). Using a zooan fruit power should make zilch difference in that sense. He just had to use the power because Luffy was too tough to beat otherwise.