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    Because it's goop.

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    So was Buu basically.

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    Hard to believe SSJ3 Gotenks couldn't even scratch base form Vegeta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janice View Post
    Hard to believe SSJ3 Gotenks couldn't even scratch base form Vegeta.
    Well, remember that, upon taking SSJ God form for the first time, their body changes so that even their base form is far more powerful than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Well, remember that, upon taking SSJ God form for the first time, their body changes so that even their base form is far more powerful than before.


    Bullshit. Even if their base form got stronger, it doesn´t get stronger to the point of outclassing ssj3

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    this is actually the only way they found to redo the majin vegeta arc....

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    Isn't Gotenk's SSJ3 supposed to be kinda shitty compared to Goku's though because he fucks around and is a dumb kid?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Bullshit. Even if their base form got stronger, it doesn´t get stronger to the point of outclassing ssj3
    Well, this episode seems to suggest otherwise. And since there's no other comparison between the two in the series atm, I'm going to have to take it's word for it.

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    If I recall correctly, SSJ3 Gotenks held its own against Super Buu, while SSJ3 Goku was about as strong as Fat Buu...

    That said, I ALSO recall goku and vegeta doing hyper training to reach SSJB in base form, so their base form DEFINITELY increase, whether or not the base increased enough to become stronger than basic SSJ3 is up for discussion I guess, but as darth said, there`s only one piece of solid evidence and that`s copy vegeta handling gotenks 3 no problem, worst of all I feel like gotenks 3 was fighting seriously.
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    Did Goten and Trunks even train after Buu Saga? I mean if you don't train your power quickly goes down the drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Did Goten and Trunks even train after Buu Saga? I mean if you don't train your power quickly goes down the drain.
    I don't see why not, they trained before it.
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    I mean ... one possible explanation I could come up with is that undergoing the god-training with Whiz had the same effect as Gohan´s training with the kaioshin´s holy sword had. Basically, it awakened their entire potential, so they´re that strong without transforming. After all, Gohan was on par (stronger then?) with SSJ3 Gotenks, too.

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    Awwwwwww shiiiiiit! Next episode! Future Truuuuuuuunks! Fuck yeah!


    Anyway, there shouldn't have been a conflict here. SSJB Goku and Vegeta are evenly matched, but Goku didn't even Kioken.

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    I was the only one bother by Trunks having blue hair and completely uncapable of flying/transform/fight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UChessmaster View Post
    I was the only one bother by Trunks having blue hair and completely uncapable of flying/transform/fight?
    There has always been inconsistencies with Trunks' and Bulma's hair color from the manga to anime. I also wondered about his lack of flying etc. I am guessing he has been robbed of his ability to use Ki, judging from how he completely relied on his sword against Black Goku, and had to jump to block his blasts rather than fly.

    Also I recently read a theory that Black Goku is a fusion of Goku's dead body (or afterlife body) and a Kaioshin. This seems more likely now that a green Kaioshin is seen in the intro right after Black Goku, plus he is obviously wearing the Potara earrings.

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    If he`s a fusion, how come he looks virtually the same as goku? Maybe he`s the future version of that goku look alike in that one movie? He also had darker skin...

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    The potara earrings kind of tell you he is a fusion. He would not be wearing them for any other reason.

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    He`s only wearing one, and didn`t the king kais wore one regardless of being fusioned or not?
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    Yeah the supreme kai's always wore them as well.

    As for why Trunks has blue hair this time around....multiple timelines and all. This version of him has blue hair. That simple I suppose. That or Vegeta aint his dad in this version. Ya never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoCybercoin View Post
    Yeah the supreme kai's always wore them as well.

    As for why Trunks has blue hair this time around....multiple timelines and all. This version of him has blue hair. That simple I suppose. That or Vegeta aint his dad in this version. Ya never know.
    Because I kinda thought this was the same future trunks from the Cell Saga, thus why he acknowledged he Z warriors as his friends, but if he isn`t, it would actually explain plenty.
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    he should be the same one as the cell saga... the difference in hair color must be to actually be the same as young trunks so its less confusing...

    also adult mei looks super cute! and they killed her 10 mins after she appeared...

    my only question now is why would trunks really need to go back to the future, if everyone else is dead there already it makes zero sense to save a ruined timeline...

    from what i remember goku died of a disease, every Z warrior died and it was only gohan and trunks and then gohan died, i can understand if bulma or mei was still alived but they arent, and changing the past doesnt change the future just create a different timeline so his own timeline is fucked up already...

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