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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryllharu View Post
    You still have a math fail in there, and something that's a red flag statement.
    If he was the same age as Himekawa's mom, he'd have been, like, 22, when Ai was 15/16.

    A red flag for real life. But not so much for anime. That's like a Sailor Moon/Tuxedo Mask level age gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    If he was the same age as Himekawa's mom, he'd have been, like, 22, when Ai was 15/16.

    A red flag for real life. But not so much for anime. That's like a Sailor Moon/Tuxedo Mask level age gap.
    Ai was a very savvy teen, but that doesn't make it okay. The series goes out of its way to highlight abuses within the industry in a realistic way. Creeping on teen idols by older men is not okay.

    And if the twins' father was the same age (or very close) to Ai? He wouldn't have been a teen, because Taiki was 6 when the twins were born.

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    Very early 20s and 15. Not uncommon regardless of morals.

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    16 is legal age of consent in Germany, and under certain circumstances I believe it goes as low as 14, but don't cite me when you're in front of the judge, lol. Anyway, my point: If 22yo real-father with 15yo Ai is supposed to be the "horrible oversight" of Aqua's, then you guys need to chill with your choice of words, lol.

    If it was 22 and 12, then I'd raise an eyebrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Anyway, my point: If 22yo real-father with 15yo Ai is supposed to be the "horrible oversight" of Aqua's, then you guys need to chill with your choice of words, lol.
    Now you're mixing things up. The oversight is that Akane caught is that Aqua was only assuming that Taiki's legal father was also the twins. Akane pointed out that Aqua was overlooking that the twins' father was also Taiki's. Very different conclusion.

    The "horrible conclusion" is the math involved, dependent on the age of the twins' father. Neither option in the potential range is good. One is a lot worse and you're downplaying it, unintentionally.

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    If the biological father is a very young chap, it's quite frightful he still had the means, will, and attitude to facilitate murders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    If the biological father is a very young chap, it's quite frightful he still had the means, will, and attitude to facilitate murders.
    Hence my theory that this guy is also involved with magic stuff, possibly also rebirthed. Think of someone like Rudy, except going further "into the darkness", making use of his new, attractive body >_>

    Edit: The one big thing I still can't wrap my head around is: Why was Ai always so forgiving towards the guy that left her with two babies? Is she just that dumb of a bitch or is there another secret involved that gives it a good reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Edit: The one big thing I still can't wrap my head around is: Why was Ai always so forgiving towards the guy that left her with two babies? Is she just that dumb of a bitch or is there another secret involved that gives it a good reason?
    Maybe he was younger than her? She didn't want to ruin a young up and coming talent by creating a scandal. Of course, that includes her own career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Maybe he was younger than her? She didn't want to ruin a young up and coming talent by creating a scandal. Of course, that includes her own career.
    If the real dad was this young, lol. Then I guess the suicide-dad killed his wife because he found out she's a pedophile? oh my, this kinda sounds dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Edit: The one big thing I still can't wrap my head around is: Why was Ai always so forgiving towards the guy that left her with two babies? Is she just that dumb of a bitch or is there another secret involved that gives it a good reason?
    Maybe I should rewatch the beginning of the show, as my memories are getting dim, but I seem to recall Ai didn't understand love, despite her name, and wanted to experience it by having kids. So, the man would have been nothing but a stud for her. A walking sperm bank. So, nothing to forgive, really. Too bad she chose a psycho. Although there's always the possibility the man actually convinced Ai of the need to learn what love is and to do it by having kids. And then he had her killed. She wasn't unhappy to give birth to Aqua and Ruby, though, so regardless of how it began, it wasn't a bad decision.

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    Aqua defiantly suspects an older mam. the producer, the director, etc...

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    I still think based on the scene I referenced in an earlier post that the father was killed, and the wife suicided, just because he was "korosareteta." That, or Aqua did not understand what actually happened and described it incorrectly to Akane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    I still think based on the scene I referenced in an earlier post that the father was killed, and the wife suicided, just because he was "korosareteta." That, or Aqua did not understand what actually happened and described it incorrectly to Akane.
    So you think the wife killed her husband to stop him from telling anyone and she killed herself afterwards out of shame/guilt?

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    Possible, not really stating anything, just pointing out what was actually said in the show.
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    Now that was a good episode.

    Soon as she followed the crow I knew she'd find the body.

    I guess our killer hid it.
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    Oh wow. Totally did NOT expect that when they walked into the cave.

    What amused me so much during the entire episode: Both Aqua and Ruby keep telling Akane stuff and showing her around, and I'm like "yeah, you two, keep telling Batman all those details, he'll run it through his computer and figure everything out!"

    And really, can we talk how great of a person Akane simply is? She's not pushing herself to the front. She's immediately offering Aqua medicine. She's nice and caring. And when she walked with Ruby, she really gave off these "big sister" vibes, like she'd fight with her life to protect Ruby in case something happens. That was especially clear when she was all serious "stay back, Ruby" at the end in the cave. I don't know if she's given up already - did her and Aqua truly beak up last episode? I'm not sure. And Arima really is a "look at me!"-attention whore.

    Now, the elephant in the room: Who TF was that silver-haired loli girl?! And did Aqua not see her? Are we going full-magic in season 3?

    Also, with Ruby talking about age gap all sudden, it makes our recent discussion about the "real father" more relevant. Although I still don't know what age he was. But if more magic elements appear, then a lot of stuff is possible. I mean, heck, the murderer of Ai died ... maybe HE is the silver hairded girl reborn? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Also, with Ruby talking about age gap all sudden, it makes our recent discussion about the "real father" more relevant.
    Even if he was only mid-20s before, he'd have been, like, 40 when she was hoping he'd find her.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    Now, the elephant in the room: Who TF was that silver-haired loli girl?!
    Maybe one of the local gods they mentioned. Possibly the one that reincarnated them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Naturally the exceedingly easy way out of this would be for the twins to realise who the other one is.
    That moment of realization is one of the things I'm most anticipating in this show.

    Quote Originally Posted by MFauli View Post
    So I think the cliffhanger will be Akane figuring out that Amamiya Gorou is the dead doctor,
    Lol, why would she need to figure that out? As soon as they report the body to the authorities, he'll be identified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthEnderX View Post
    Even if he was only mid-20s before, he'd have been, like, 40 when she was hoping he'd find her.
    He badge said he was the Obstetrics resident. Assuming he got into med school immediately after highschool then trained as a doctor, I'd say that mid 20s would be about right.

    Akane gets points again this episode.
    During the previous episode I felt bad when they covered Aqua/Akane breaking up.
    During this episode when Kana was feeling bad, I felt a little bad for Kana - but I was just mostly amused at her reactions.

    Both twins have seemingly lost their raison d'etre now. I'm now quite curious to see how they get over this.

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    I have to admit Akane is growing on me as a character by every episode. Not that I'd have ever disliked her, but I'm the kind of reader/watcher that when I see a certain potential couple form, I will consider it the canon and it's hard for me change my opinion. Since we know the real background devil is still out there, Akane's flaw of supporting Aqua in anything and everything isn't irrelevant yet. Not that it would ever be, since even without chasing murderers, there are still lots of troubles in most people's lives. I could see Arima kicking Aqua's ass to make him get over stuff, but Akane would only keep supporting his current direction, even if it was directly down. If he got over it, fine, if he didn't, Akane would just take the fall with him, all happily. Aqua might look like a strong person, but in fact he's the weakest of them all.

    The crow part was nice. The bigger corvids are blood intelligent even in RL, so something like this could actually happen in reality! Or could have if it hadn't been 15 years. I reckon that might be a bit too much even if the crow happened to live so long. Otherwise if the doctor had been helping a crow, and the bird had got attached to him, the crow might very well try to guide people to his remains. What wasn't nice, though, was Ruby's star dying. I have no idea what's going to happen next to her, her career, and everything. Though truthfully I didn't realise she was so attached to the doctor even in her second life. I'd have rather only expected nostalgia, viewing it as something that's important but not anymore part of her active life. Naturally the exceedingly easy way out of this would be for the twins to realise who the other one is. That would fix Ruby's trauma, shock, sadness, and everything in a single second. Even if she needed to let go of her romantic feelings.

    Who knows about the little girl. Maybe she's connected to the goddess of performers that was mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraco View Post
    Naturally the exceedingly easy way out of this would be for the twins to realise who the other one is. That would fix Ruby's trauma, shock, sadness, and everything in a single second. Even if she needed to let go of her romantic feelings.
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