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    Poor Jinshi. Maomao still thinks he lost his doodle.

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    Episode 30

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    This episode was fire.


    Maomao doing all the stuff she does best - deducing leads, pharmacy and occasionally pressuring people who piss her off.
    I guess there's no evidence that Lihua's first child was killed by Shin necessarily, but if you were to believe that to be the case then she's damn lenient on her alright. Even if it was an out for her cousin, it seems a little light.

    Platform shoes to disguise Maomao's height was a nice touch.

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    I really like that this episode brings some context all the way back to episode 1 again, not that we needed it, but it is nice to fill out the picture even more.

    Shin wanted to be the empress for the political power, she "deserved" it. Lihua wants to be the empress because she deeply loves the Emperor. The thing that makes Lihua mad isn't even that Shin was trying to kill her baby, but that Shin didn't love the emperor as much as she loved herself and the thought of that prestige.

    This adds a lot more context back to episode 1. Even though Lihua and Gyokuyou were screaming at each other about the thought that each was trying to poison the other and kill each other's unborn children, they haven't fought since and they certainly know by now that they are effectively in a race to become empress with each other.

    But know we know that Lihua doesn't care about that part of it. She doesn't want to become empress above everything else, she just wants to have the emperor's child, nothing more than that.

    She truly and genuinely loves the Emperor.

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    An excellent episode, indeed...

    I wonder why the servant was denied any sort of care and wound up in the same storage shed where the illegal oils were? Did Shin just not consider the possibility that it might endanger the evidence? Was it a super convenient coincidence (for Maomao)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by neflight86 View Post
    I wonder why the servant was denied any sort of care and wound up in the same storage shed where the illegal oils were? Did Shin just not consider the possibility that it might endanger the evidence? Was it a super convenient coincidence (for Maomao)?
    Maomao explained this. She was using the smell of the sick person to cover the smell of the oils she was hiding there.

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    Ok thanks, I remember her saying something like that. I guess I've never been around a sick person who... had that thick of a smell. Must be a period thing.

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    No, even today, very sick people smell of the medication they are given.
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    blood sores, mucuos, exterments, even normal body odor from someone who didn't get to change cloths or wash up for a few days.

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    As a doctor, I'll say that people can smell. Usually because of hygiene more so than anything else. Being sick can impact on how well you can maintain your own hygiene.

    Specific illnesses can smell strongly. I'd say some sort of infected, open, rotting flesh with pseudomonas is probably the worst of them.

    In this episode's case, I'd say that overall being someone who is bedbound and wasting away whilst largely alone would do the trick. One of the servant girls got chewed out for bringing her food. I imagine she'd have to toilet in that shed and there's no shower for her either. All that blood-stained sputum also has to linger in the shed. (Much of which you guys have already mentioned)

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    Have you ever had a chance of using the "As a doctor" line IRL? If so, what happened?

    I imagine if you are among other medical staff you would never use this preface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    Have you ever had a chance of using the "As a doctor" line IRL? If so, what happened?

    I imagine if you are among other medical staff you would never use this preface.

    "As a doctor, I have the responsibility of making sure every patient is safe. That can mean that those who need specialist, tertiary hospitals get transferred there. It also means allocating patients who can be safely taken care of in a peripheral hospital to that hospital so that everyone can receive the care that they need."

    -me to a patient at some point in the past.




    The "As a doctor" is a preface I use to clarify my role and set expectations on my responsibility or my task. It might be used in a conversation about:

    -advocating for transfer to another facility (either up or down).
    -advising why a patient has to stay in hospital, perhaps against their will if they do not have capacity to make decisions.
    -explaining why we're having a conversation in the first place (patient wishes to leave but it's my role to explain their risks to them if they do so).
    -explaining my role in the hospital (be it emergency or intensive care, wherever I happen to be working at the time), and setting expectations on what I'm there to do (rule out life-treatenning diseases in ED, or identify patients in need of organ support in ICU). This usually leads me to explain why I'm delegating care to family practice (if not lifethreatenning) or general ward (if not requiring organ support). (This case is usually explaining to a patient why I'm discharging them despite them still having pain or an ongoing problem, or why they don't need an ICU admission).



    I have used "As a doctor" before with patients for explaining my role and setting expectations for what they can or can't expect me to accomplish with this encounter.

    I have used it with nurses to explain my role in a similar manner, especially if their expectation of my role differs to how I view it.

    I have used it with doctors either at equal seniority with me or lower, or medical students. With doctors of similar seniority, they might be asking me for a "what would you do?" type of chat, where I'll use this line to explain why I'd suggest something. With juniors or medical students it would be more educational and didactic in nature.

    With doctors from other teams that I'm not working directly with (that is, not ED/ICU), it might be to advocate for a patient's safety and insisting that they should review or admit a patient.

    I can't recall having used this line with my supervisor before. I guess the phrase is a soft power-move in a way, but it is largely used for setting the stage that "I'm saying this because I realise what my responsibilities are", rather than "I'm a doctor so should do this".

    As for the above post, it's a "From experience (as a doctor), I'll say that..."

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    Actually, side note and funny story.

    I was working in a radiology department at the time. Radiologists get consulted at times for opinions on whether certain scans can be helpful. After a certain consult, my boss in the office said to me "I feel it's pretentious to introduce yourself as Doctor so-and-so to a medical colleague (in person). We know you're a doctor when you say you're from Gastro or whatever. Such dickish power move."

    Immediately after this comment, I get a phone call from a medical team doctor who would be more senior to me, saying that a scan his own boss has ordered has come back with an abnormality and that I should recall the patient to hospital because he doesn't know the patient directly, and our department found the abnormality. Note that it's always the referring teams' responsibility to action any abnormalities on a scan they've ordered - not on radiology to deal with direct patient care. I was very junior at the time.

    My boss overheard this phone call, picked up the phone, called that doctor back and said "Hi, this is Doctor so-and-so from radiology. I heard you rang my junior to do this task. He works for me, not you. I think you should call your own patient. Bye."
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    LOL.

    Have you ever used the preface in non-medical settings? Like a casual conversation with friends/acquaintances or strangers?

    For example, someone is saying something factually incorrect about medicine or the human body (i.e. antivaxxers), and you correct them by saying "As a doctor, you are full of shit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by shinta|hikari View Post
    LOL.

    Have you ever used the preface in non-medical settings? Like a casual conversation with friends/acquaintances or strangers?

    For example, someone is saying something factually incorrect about medicine or the human body (i.e. antivaxxers), and you correct them by saying "As a doctor, you are full of shit."
    No. I try not to let people know I'm a doctor if I can, and I withhold from correcting someone's medical knowledge (especially strangers) unless they specifically sought my opinion. It's easier to not be involved.

    Gotta say, before I graduated I was a little excited about being able to use Dr. After graduation, I realised it's much easier to use Mr for everything outside of work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    No. I try not to let people know I'm a doctor if I can,[...]
    can you elaborate on the reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Death BOO Z View Post
    can you elaborate on the reason?
    I will feel self conscious about mentioning that I'm a doctor in case it comes off as sounding self important and so on. If someone specifically asks, then I'll answer (because they asked). But if they didn't, then I won't volunteer it in case I get perceived as a "This guy will tell someone he's a doctor at every opportunity" person, even if that's not factually true.

    It also means I field less random questions outside of work. Family asking for advice is enough.

    I don't really get into general online discussions outside of this forum because I find it pointless, so I'll just let some unknown stranger continue their beliefs. It doesn't bother me. I'm more of a lurker outside of here.

    The online discussions I do get into outside of this forum are focused, non-health related topics where my being a doctor is unhelpful and irrelevant.

    I'll answer if there's an emergency on a plane or something.

    I have very few friends in real life. They know, so the phrase is unnecessary.

    And you guys know. I guess this is actually one of the few places I use it, where I actually feel bothered to talk about health stuff, and where using the phrase helps clarify my perspective.
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    lol, thanks.

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    omg, Maomao is worthy! (but only for Jinshi. Not enough bust for the Emperor xD)

    I had no idea about how to tackle the shrine initially. My focus was centred around whether they were trying to pick an obedient ruler or one who breaks rules etc. It wasn't until Maomoa asked about eyesight that red/green colour-blindness was the test.

    Though, interestingly the Emperor mentions that several previous emperors didn't have good eyesight. As Maomao said, red/green colour blindness was not well known and quite easily covered up during daily life. You'd think those emperors would be known for their exceptional night vision instead, which would go against the current Emperor's initial comment. That said, it wouldn't have made a huge difference to Maomao's conclusion. If she heard that they had exceptional night vision instead, she'd probably still come to the same answer.

    Old Eunuch would have taught the emperor. He talks to them both like he's known them since they were pups.

    I'm surprised that Jinshi actually has no idea that he's the emperor's child rather than dad.

    Or that the Emperor is just casually mentioning that he's aware that Maomao is Lakan's daughter.
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    Actually, my father is color-blind, so whenever I see Red and Green together I consider the option.
    it doesn't affect him much, no problems driving or in daily life. he has a hard time telling flower colors apart and it affected how well he could play bejewled.
    color blindess is rarer for woman, even if they pass the genes on to their sons. but simply knowledge of the condition means they have half the answer, and if they're smart enough (like MaoMao) then they get integrated back into the royal bloodline. so it checks for both bloodline (since they are taken from that region) and for intellegnce.

    funny how Jinshi's mother only bowed down when the empress doweger came over, not for the previous emperor.
    I'm not sure anyone can know who's the real father. we assume that Aoudo is the mother and the babies got switched, but we can't be sure it's really true, or who would be left to know about this. besides, digging this up doesn't benefit anyone.

    Lakan being her father isn't that much of a secret, defintaly not important enough for them to hide it from the emperor. Lakan knows and told them himself, and maybe even told the empreor already (not sure how high up the food chain he actually is), maybe it was Gao-san who reported that to the empreor.

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    At first, I thought it was a logic puzzle, where you had to know color combos. So if it said no red, you couldn't pick orange, purple or brown either.

    I didn't figure it out, even though I am colorblind.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalobiian View Post
    Or that the Emperor is just casually mentioning that he's aware that Maomao is Lakan's daughter.
    I'd forgotten who Lakan was, so I was like "Who's this person the Emperor keeps joking about asking permission for a new concubine from?"
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    I like that the Emperor is generally a very chill dude. Maomao may have been overreacting all this time, especially since she's favored by the Emperor's three favorite people. Fairly humble, not afraid to show that he's not some divinely chosen genius, respecting dedicated people like Maomao's birth father, etc. He's also super open about liking big boobs.

    But given the absolutely vicious look on face of the present Empress-Dowager, the previous Empress-Dowager was a tyrant who wouldn't hesitate to murder someone crossing her or her son who was quite obviously a figurehead while she ruled.

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