Rock Paper Scissors, Rock > Scissors, Scissors > Paper. Just because Scissors > Paper, and Rock > Scissors does that mean Rock > Paper? No it doesn't. Just because Naruto can't defeat Kimimaro, Lee has a whole different fighting style, so he may be able to win. Kimimaro isn't as strong as you think, and he's definately not just under the legendary 3, he's most likely at the level of a chuunin.
kimimaro isn't as strong as kabuto but he has to be freaking super strong. i mean, he was orochimaru's first choice and that's before sasuke, the super genius from the crazy clan...this year's the number one rookie. not possible that kimimaro can lose to lee. it'd just be stupid if kimimaro got beat up by lee.
Well -- as we can see, Orochimaru doesn't choose bodies based on their current abilities. He gets bodies who have the most potential in the future. So that doesn't neccessarily mean that Kimimaro is extremely strong at all right now.
He doesn't have to be super strong. He'd probably draw with Sasuke at the moment.
Also: I don't know where you got that Naruto was using the most Kyuubi power we've seen him use, Insomniac. Naruto could still keep Kyuubi's power in check, besides the change in physical appearance, it doesn't seem so much different than when he used the Kyuubi power against Neji. I'd still say that he used more power in his fight against Haku.
And yes, Naruto didn't go at Kimimaro with all his strength. If he'd done that, he'd be at a loss if he messed up at any point. It's obviously safer to go in with weaker attacks at the beginning. I don't neccessarily think Naruto was testing Kimimaro's power - but I think it's very likely that Naruto was just trying to get out of the battle as healthy as he could.
He couldn't exactly afford to win the battle just barely, like everyone else had done, since he'd still have to bring Sasuke back and everything. I think he was being smart and seeing if he could just win be outnumbering Kimimaro.
yes taijutsu vs taijutsu but you have to remember that kimimaru also has cursed lvl 2 seal and well reall all lee has is his super great taijutsu kimi can use nin and prolly gen jutsu
but all in all i think rock lee will lose and be back where he started "in the hospital" just my opinion im not a huge lee fan but he is a great character and should win i just don't think he can do it
i don't understand why people still just assume that kimimaro has the same curse seal as sasuke and the sound 4 and kimimaro can go to lvl 2. THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CURSE SEAL.
no they don't sasuke has something like a heaven seal and kimimaru has something like a gaiea seal
who knows what the others seals are i think each seal is unique or its a different seal for differant people
Who said they were the same seal? I stated that Kabuto was wondering whether Kimimaro's seal was stronger or Sasuke's. Never did I mention that they were the same (in case you were implicating me).
In fact, they are NOT the same seal.
Kabuto states that the seals are equal in the amount of power they give to the sealed person. Kimimaro has the "Gaia" seal while Sasuke has the "Heaven" seal.
Even if they are different seals, should the fact that they are seals suggest that there is a level 1 and 2 involved? Maybe not, hard to tell.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
kakashi also could've known how to open up gates before he used his sharingan on lee. it's more feasible to believe that someone of kakashi's stature would know how to open a few gates. personally, i thought kakashi used his sharingan on lee to check out the chakra activity in his body.
if we are strictly talking about the manga, then nm, i don't think he does either.
Actually, Sasuke does not fight Temari in the manga...or at least, I believe he didn't
naaa she didnt. even if she did the results would of been the same she get her ass kicked
1. none of the sound's four are jounin level.
2. kimimaro *might* be jounin level. but we don't know that yet. then again, we can speculate that he's real strong since tayuya (who is actually a pretty decent ninja) is deathly afraid of kimimaro. also, someone like tayuya wouldn't let someone get away if they threatened to her life. so, i'm guessing kimimaro is around jounin level.
3. gai is an idiot. someone as clam and collected as kakashi would've just been like "eh, lee gets some what rowdy when he drinks" and ended it there instead of going "OH MY GOD, WE'RE ALL FUCKED LEE IS DRINKING HOLY SHITFUCKSLAKEKLALIDJOLWIAOJDOHIAHDIDYHAKEI'MSTUPID !!!" personally, i think lee drinking and going crazy is overrated. i'm sure he goes berserk, but not enough to cause TOTAL DESTRUCTION as gai is making it out to be.
I highly doubt Kimimaro is Jounin level. Kabuto is jounin level. Kabuto is not even worried about Kimimaro. He compares him, while using the curse seal, to Sasuke (Level 2 curse seal). Now both, while using their curse seal, are definitely strong, but not near jounin. Maybe good ANBU level.
He leveled a farkin' tavern! He knocked Gai out! That's nasty. He got the drop on Gai. I'll say it again. When in drunk mode, Rock Lee beat Gai.3. gai is an idiot. someone as clam and collected as kakashi would've just been like "eh, lee gets some what rowdy when he drinks" and ended it there instead of going "OH MY GOD, WE'RE ALL FUCKED LEE IS DRINKING HOLY SHITFUCKSLAKEKLALIDJOLWIAOJDOHIAHDIDYHAKEI'MSTUPID !!!" personally, i think lee drinking and going crazy is overrated. i'm sure he goes berserk, but not enough to cause TOTAL DESTRUCTION as gai is making it out to be.
I love this, because it is yet another homage Kishimoto is making to the great martial Arts stars and their films, in this case Jackie Chan and Yuen Wo-Pei from Drunken Master 1 & 2.
ok, he leveled a tavern. nothing a regular ninja can't do.Originally posted by: Arctyc
He leveled a farkin' tavern! He knocked Gai out! That's nasty. He got the drop on Gai. I'll say it again. When in drunk mode, Rock Lee beat Gai.
he knocked out gai. wow, that says a lot. gai is retarded. he is an awesome ninja but he is also an idiot. i bet you gai was like "OMFG LEE PLZ BE CAREFUL DON'T DO ANYTHING TOO CRAZY" chasing lee around trying to make sure he's safe WHILE gai was drinking and i'm sure when gai tried to stop lee, lee accidentally knocked gai in the head. some people make too much of big deal out of gai losing his consciousness. it could've happen from too much drinking or getting knocked out by lee. if you think lee knocked out gai because gai couldn't fight back then you must be crazy.
kimimaro is definitely not a godly warrior, but he is definitely someone that can whoop ass. if orochimaru picked sasuke for his sharingan ability and his potential (which is more than itachi, WHICH is insane) then you can pretty much assume that sasuke is going to be one hell of a ninja. now, with that being said, sasuke was orochimaru's second choice. which means kimimaro must have had the upper hand on sasuke before he became ill. kimimaro (without the illness) is suppose to be a greater ninja than sasuke who has potential to be greater than itachi. even though kimimaro is ill, that shouldn't make him useless or anything. kimimaro is still a powerful ninja. lee does have a chance to beat kimimaro, but both have disadvantages. first, we know that lee just came out of surgery. second, lee is drunk. he may become this berserk character when drunk, but that also has a negative effect. on to kimimaro. we know that he has an illness, but we haven't seen any signs of him feeling any pain or looking uncomfortable in any way. he just got done with finishing off 1000 kyubi naruto clones and had a little scirmish with lee. NONE of them landed a single hit. on to sasuke. there are no super genius clans, only people from the clan who are super geniuses. and if you consider itachi a genius, then sasuke has to be a bigger genius considering he has more potential than him, even though we haven't seen most of it yet. and what the hell is rock paper scissors.Originally posted by: Xceleration
For all those idiots who think Kimimaro is some kind of godly warrior just because he's Orochimaru's first choice, and think that Sasuke is really strong, THEY AREN'T. They are definately not jounin level, and neither are the Sound 4. All of you people who think the sound 4 are really strong just because they beat 2 jounins that were low on chakra with a level 2 seal, they got lucky that the jounins were at a weak state. The sound 4 are at Chuunin level at most, and might be near jounin with level 2 seals, but are not anymore then that. Kimimaro isn't godly, Sasuke isn't some super genius, he's just from a genius clan. Rock Lee does have chances against Kimimaro... and to remind you people again, Rock Paper Scissors!
what? did you not see how narut's pupils changed, his fangs grew, and his finger nails became claws? which happened when he fought haku?Originally posted by: kaigan
i don't think naruto was using hte kybui's power when he was fighting kimi.
O_o I don't know how anyone could miss that.... did you even read it?Originally posted by: Mut@t@
what? did you not see how narut's pupils changed, his fangs grew, and his finger nails became claws? which happened when he fought haku?Originally posted by: kaigan
i don't think naruto was using hte kybui's power when he was fighting kimi.
BTW, Kim might have been feeling pain or discomfort, he may just be putting on a brave face. He could collapse any second but never show it.
You know how these badasses are, they try to never show weakness.
I think I know precisely what I mean
when I say it's a schpadoinkle day
Jackie Chan was awesome in those films.
Anyway, in essence, drunken boxing doesn't appeal to me. Though it provides some comic relief, it is frankly unbelievable, and seems to discredit the idea of martial arts as a skilled practice.
http://www.chinavoc.com/kungfu/schools/cata_zui.aspAnyway, in essence, drunken boxing doesn't appeal to me. Though it provides some comic relief, it is frankly unbelievable, and seems to discredit the idea of martial arts as a skilled practice.
http://www.geocities.com/kungfu_gala...n/Drunken.html
http://www.geocities.com/drunk_monk_...ial/drunk.html
I've posted a bit about this in other threads, but as a style, Drunken Boxing is very real, and very challenging. (My current system of study, Eagle Claw Kung Fu, has one Drunken Boxing form, and it is the last one to be learned.)
But does Sexy no jutsu or Harem no justsu?Anyway, in essence, drunken boxing doesn't appeal to me. Though it provides some comic relief, it is frankly unbelievable, and seems to discredit the idea of martial arts as a skilled practice.
honestly, this series was lacking fun through out this whole entire arc and its not really Naruto with out the fun / funny stuff. I think the Drunken Boxing idea is good, the fact Rock Lee showed up from no where is not
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