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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Yeah, I hadn't thought of that TBH. Sakon's gotta be defeated somehow, I wonder who will do it. Maybe Sasuke will run into him on the way or something and want to test his new abilities.
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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    How would Sasuke find Kiba and Sakon? They went off on a tangent from Shika and Tayuya, so they are probably somewhere relatively nearby, while Sasuke, Naruto, Lee, and Kimimaro are pretty far from Shika/Tayuya. I don't see how Sasuke might run into Kiba or Sakon.

    There's a question, where exactly is Sasuke heading? Just away from Naruto and the others? Or to Orochimaru? How does he know where Oro is?

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    I was just wondering about Sasuke, it was just a random thought. Someone's gotta beat Sakon, and I highly doubt it'll be Kiba. You're right though, they fell down a ravine.
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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    actually, i wrote that it might turn out like that a few weeks ago, with Sasuke killing the last sound four to check out his power..

    it's quite possible that Sakon will be the one to die, since Sasuke still owes him about thier last match, and we all know that Sasuke loves to hold grudges to other people...

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    It would be good, but JTD121 made a good point in saying that Sasuke and Kiba/Sakon are in a totally different place, Kiba/Sakon fell down a ravine, it would be too hard for Sasuke to just "run into them".
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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    let's say that these two reasonable things will happen:
    A. Sasuke gets to orochimaru (following his natrual sense of direction when it concerns getting into trouble).
    B. Sakon kills Kiba and goes to rendevous with the rest of his team in Oro's Headquraters.

    now, since the rest of the sound four are dead (besides Tayuya, but we don't know yet) and Oro has Sasuke, Sakon is pretty useless for him, right?

    and Oro doesn't keep useless stuff around, so he'll probably use sakon to check Sasuke's new power, just like he did with the sound trio, to check the lvl 1 seal...

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
    let's say that these two reasonable things will happen:
    A. Sasuke gets to orochimaru (following his natrual sense of direction when it concerns getting into trouble).
    B. Sakon kills Kiba and goes to rendevous with the rest of his team in Oro's Headquraters.

    now, since the rest of the sound four are dead (besides Tayuya, but we don't know yet) and Oro has Sasuke, Sakon is pretty useless for him, right?

    and Oro doesn't keep useless stuff around, so he'll probably use sakon to check Sasuke's new power, just like he did with the sound trio, to check the lvl 1 seal...
    Good theory. However, I doubt the creator will kill off Kiba, though he really should reduce the char count a few for the continuially expanding line-up.

    Easy solution.

    Sakon corners Kiba but hasn't found his exact location yet. Sakon senses Sasuka heading toward Orochi. Guess what? His mission to keep others advancing is over. He's done and takes off back to Orochi's.

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    Originally posted by: MightyDustLoop

    Good theory. However, I doubt the creator will kill off Kiba, though he really should reduce the char count a few for the continuially expanding line-up.
    Yep. That ain't gonna happen.
    Genma and Raido, who aren't main characters, didn't get killed.
    Boo may want Kiba dead, as much I want Sasuke and Sakura following the same path to the land from where no traveller has return.
    But there's not even a ghost of a chance that it will happen.


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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    No chance in hell, Sakon is said to be the one with the wrost temper that won't give up until he kills his enemy, and that he's the strongest of the sound four (excluding Kimimaru, of course).

    combine that with the fact that Kiba and Akamaru PISSED on him, and you'll get one revengfull basterd...

    Kiba is the perfect guy to die now, next to choji. he has done nothing meaningfull, he isn't intersting, people can like him but not enough to get attached. Like chouji and Dosu, he'll have more effect on the storyline dead rather than alive..

    my perfect scenrio would go like this:
    Sakon jumps into the water to consil his smell from kiba, and he uses Ukon's eye as a perriscope to look around, then they get to Kiba, and ukon takes over Akamaru's body, leaving Kiba unable to react against him, and that's when Sakon charges at Kiba, and kills him like the useless shit he is...
    after that, Sakon takes pity on Akamaru and adopts him, and then he goes back to orochimaru. when he gets there, Akamaru starts to cry, since he feels how powerfull and evil Sasuke is now. Sakons tries to ask where's the rest of his team, but orochimaru says that they are no longer useful to him, and orders sasuke to kill Sakon. a page after that we see Sasuke lvl2 standing atop of Sakon's body, luaghing and bragging about his new power and strengh, and swears that like he paid Sakon back for beating him earlier, he's going to kill Itachi for the humilation he gave him. (note: he won't refear to his oath to rebuild the clan or to the fact that he's killing itachi for revenge of the clan, it'll be perssonal now, to show that sasuke is on the bad side now).

    anyway, that's how i'd like to see it, Kiba can rot in hell, but Akamaru should live on..

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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Originally posted by: Death BOO Z
    No chance in hell, Sakon is said to be the one with the wrost temper that won't give up until he kills his earlier, he's going to kill Itachi for the humilation he gave him. (note: he won't refear to his oath to rebuild the clan or to the fact that he's killing itachi for revenge of the clan, it'll be perssonal now, to show that sasuke is on the bad side now).

    anyway, that's how i'd like to see it, Kiba can rot in hell, but Akamaru should live on..
    Now, if Oro who is who he is, thinks Itachi is stronger than him, could you explain to me how Sasuke on level 2 will kill Itachi?

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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Dude, I think you meant to say that Itachi is stronger than Oro, not Itachi is stronger than Itachi.

    There's a difference between forcing yourself to believe something and going out on a limb to believe the words "he is stronger than myself." Especially when Kishimoto doesn't back that up with any sequence of events.

    Hmmmm.....maybe the use of hunter nins (especially since everyone claims how precious the last Uchiha is to the village) will allow us to move on to the development of Akatsuki. Then Sasuke escapes and trains with Oro, blah, blah, blah. The only thing that these episodes achieve is to show us the powers of the level 2 seal, which is either powerful or not. I can't tell by your contradictions.

    Your explanation of kimi being on another level because of threats and almost death just means that Kimimaro is slightly better then the other four, remember the other four were'nt all that strong to begin with. He needs to be on a different level for Rock Lee, this will be his best match up since the Gara fight.

    On a lighter note, I don't think that Kiba will end up finishing Sakon. Kiba is without Akamaru, he has lost a lot of blood, and he is low on chakra. I think Kiba will be saved by someone.

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    Originally posted by: hiten mitsurugi
    Dude, I think you meant to say that Itachi is stronger than Oro, not Itachi is stronger than Itachi.

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    Let's try again, see if you understand now, dude.
    Now, Orochimaru, who is who he (Orichimaru) is, thinks that Itachi is stronger than him (Orochimaru),[...]
    The English language alows the use of pronouns instead of somebody's name, for example.

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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    what contradictions? and what do you mean either the level 2 seal is powerful or not? of course it's powerful...

    how can you believe that kimimaro is only slightly better than the sound's 4? you think with tayuya's attitude and ego, she'd just say nothing when someone threatens her life when that person is only 'slightly' better than she is? hell no! tayuya keeping her mouth shut was to show that kimimaro has the sound's 4 on a leash. he can smash them without much trouble. and i know she'd talk back to kimimaro if he was only 'slightly' stronger than she is because she talks back to sakon who is said to be the strongest of the sound's 4.
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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Lee can only use taijutsu. So, wouldn't it make sense that he has studied many different styles? Instead of just passively knowing the drunken fist?

    I doubt that hunter-nins would be sent out after a day or two.

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    WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Lee will beat kimi imo
    5 of the 8 gates have been opened
    i highly doubt gai will be the one later on
    to open the 8 gates like that.
    Lee will open the 8th gate later on
    and kill some other big bad ass Arc 9 ninja
    he will not lose to kimi now lol ..
    We know so far that Lee potentially has the power
    to surpass a hokage for a short amount of time before
    he dies ..
    Now its a garunteed that lee will unlock the 8th gate
    against someone .. and your telling me that kimmi is
    close to a hokage in power?

    I honestly don't know why people are swallowing the members
    of a character created just to be torn down by lee. Kimmi
    does have a purpose .. thats to get his bones shattered by the
    iron fist style and since he is all bones ... i don't know why
    people are still argueing this. Kimmi's powers were created as
    "Bones" for a reason, for the perfect comeback/return for lee
    Come on now folks its called foreshadowing ..


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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    lol wow.....
    well i agree with the idea that lee's bone shattering taijutsu and kimimaru's bone type bloodline seems like a convenient match-up that could lead some good predictions on what will happen......but if lee opens that 8th gate.....then he is definitely going to die......in fact.....if he opened that 8th gate this early on his recovery.....then 1 of 2 things will happen.....

    1) he dies afterwards.....leaving lots of pissed off fans
    2) he doesnt die......thus proving the entire concept of the user dying from unlocking gates untrue and contradicting what was stated earlier in the series......leaving lots of pissed off fans
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    I could definitely see a stalemate coming, Kishimoto already did it with Gaara/Naruto. Both Lee and Kimi aren't 100%, and considering that Neji and fatty are already *possibly* dead, there's no need for a dramatic death by Lee. Another thing to consider is the humor being used in the situation .. it lends to this not being a knock-down major fight, but rather a temporary distraction during the Naruto finding Sasuke situation.

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    well 211/212 made it obvious that Kimimaro and Lee actually arent on the same level

    Kimimaro from what we've seen was just playing around with Naruto and Lee, once he activated his morphic bones it was all over for Lee.
    did i forget to mention that Kimimaro hasnt activated level 2 yet either?

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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    insomniac has this one. my response to strider's post is the one above.

    maybe another day strider.
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    RE: WHY IS LEE ON PAR WITH Kimmimaro??

    Level two? .. I do not even think he's activated the first level. All of this monstrous nonsense he is doing now is all inclusive with the package of his bloodline inheritance. But, I agreed with someone earlier on that point .. Kimimaro and Lee are not on equal fighting grounds. And, as much as I love Lee .. it is true.

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