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    as long as countries remember hiroshima, theres no way theyll try and attack us home turf. and whats up with this 'soft' and 'pussy' bullshit? where i grew up i might not have faced war as in that sense, but ive seen it in another way and it can be just as ugly. so dont sit there in your computer chair acting all hard like you know how it is in america especially if you dont live here.

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    the reason why there's never a fight on our turf is cause everyone else is afraid to attack us directly....
    so if we're pussies, then what word would describe THOSE people? geez do you always contradict yourself in your statements?

    Originally posted by: FearTheMullet
    They dont perfer Saddams tyranny, but they sure as hell dont want Americas
    you were right up until that comma, im afraid....for it seems they do in fact want a democratic government

    as for your obviously exaggerrated opinions about hundreds of millions of people.....nice attempt on your stereotyping, but it seems even people who dont live in america are calling you a dumbass......so i suggest you go find some other activity to play with, rather than making a fool of yourself within the safe confines of your little computer desk......your mullet has "tree hugging hippie" written all over it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    i think the thing that surprises me most, is that it seems you're from germany....and before us an our allies intervened, your government was killing millions of your people, as you had mentioned yourself........
    yet.....you.....DO have a problem with outsiders helping to free a country from its government? I think you better take a look in the mirror at the face that might not exist if it wasnt for our country
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    didnt they get their own country? and look what that did now, israel and palestine on the news every single day.
    well who the hell are you tlaking abotu you fuckin moron? sounds like jews to me.

    also america isnt the be all and end all of the world you guys know, europe in terms of technology, army size, navy size, airforce size AND experince in ALL kind of battles europe comes out on top. i know it isnt a country but you could not nuke germany with out the whole of europe with the exception of probly the UK doing something about it. also MANY MANY countrys have nukes now, its not like the US is alone there any more, one nuke in fort knox (bad sp maybe?) and america would be wasted utterly and truley, no other country relys on the gold they have (heck no other country HAS that gold for a start lol) for almost everything they do.

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    dude, that's completely unfair. why are you trying to create a scenario where a country has to fight a whole continent?
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    what the hell is chambers talking about now? chambers your the fuckin moron, what the guy said was where he came from 6 million jews were murdered and they didnt get any condolensces or ask for any. so yeah i reffered to some european jews as they, like i said if you had read the above posts then you would had known what i was talking about. but instead you have to act like an ignorant dickhead and try to start a debate about me calling the european jews who settled in israel after WWII as they. big deal i called them they, why are you so offended?

    and um...whats the point of your europe vs usa comments? oh i know, its your nature as an idiot to write stupid bs like that to try and stir up trouble.

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    Originally posted by: chambers
    didnt they get their own country? and look what that did now, israel and palestine on the news every single day.
    well who the hell are you tlaking abotu you fuckin moron? sounds like jews to me.

    also america isnt the be all and end all of the world you guys know, europe in terms of technology, army size, navy size, airforce size AND experince in ALL kind of battles europe comes out on top. i know it isnt a country but you could not nuke germany with out the whole of europe with the exception of probly the UK doing something about it. also MANY MANY countrys have nukes now, its not like the US is alone there any more, one nuke in fort knox (bad sp maybe?) and america would be wasted utterly and truley, no other country relys on the gold they have (heck no other country HAS that gold for a start lol) for almost everything they do.
    Sorry to break it to ya, but google up information on the nuclear arsenals of the world, there is no credible equal to the United States in terms of quickly deliverable (anywhere on earth) thermonuclear warheads. If you combined the strategic nuclear capabilities of every country on earth other than the US, it's still child's play in comparison. Nothing to be proud of, I'm somewhat ashamed that my country has spent untold trillions of dollars on weapons of unimaginable destructive power. Food for thought : the trident boomer sub can surface and fire it's entire payload of MIRV missiles in under six minutes, and a single one of those subs carries enough destructive power to kill or destroy just about every living thing on a continent the size of north america.

    The reasons for this are pretty simple : the US more or less 'cheated' on nuclear arms treaties, saying one thing while doing another .. and was competing with the USSR to maintain a fragile stalemate of mutual assured destruction should one side choose to start a war. In the midst of this arms race, virtually every other country on earth with nuclear arms was recieving directive from one of these 2 superpowers, and of course, much weaker arsenals and technology so that the balance of power did not shift from the titans to the little guys. Even the Chinese nuclear arsenal is pathetic in EVERY area of strategic importance (Targeting, time to fire delay, missile guidance system, warhead power, sigint).

    A conventional war between the US and EU would go to the EU, but a nuclear conflict is something Europe and most of that part of the planet simply wouldn't survive. The fallout and tertiary effects would be catastrophic GLOBALLY... meaning everyone would be a loser in the end. Unless you want to take into effect Neutron weapons, commonly called clean nukes .. AFAIK Israel is the country with the most development in this area, but information is difficult to come by regarding that issue.

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    Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
    the reason why there's never a fight on our turf is cause everyone else is afraid to attack us directly....
    so if we're pussies, then what word would describe THOSE people? geez do you always contradict yourself in your statements?

    Originally posted by: FearTheMullet
    They dont perfer Saddams tyranny, but they sure as hell dont want Americas
    you were right up until that comma, im afraid....for it seems they do in fact want a democratic government

    as for your obviously exaggerrated opinions about hundreds of millions of people.....nice attempt on your stereotyping, but it seems even people who dont live in america are calling you a dumbass......so i suggest you go find some other activity to play with, rather than making a fool of yourself within the safe confines of your little computer desk......your mullet has "tree hugging hippie" written all over it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

    i think the thing that surprises me most, is that it seems you're from germany....and before us an our allies intervened, your government was killing millions of your people, as you had mentioned yourself........
    yet.....you.....DO have a problem with outsiders helping to free a country from its government? I think you better take a look in the mirror at the face that might not exist if it wasnt for our country

    I am from Poland. Not Germany. Close but no cigar. And Iraq is far form free. If you read the rest of what I put, you might have caught the part about the difference in culture. Like I said, it'll never work. Iraq, a country which has been imprisoned by a dictator will not become democratic in one year jsut because America thinks they can do it. It's impossible.

    I never said they didnt want, or wont desire a democratic way of life. But a democratic way of life can not be pushed upon them by America invading them. This isn't like when Germany had a Democratic puppet government installed. They have been living for hundreds of years in a different culture with religious fanatacism. I know my previous rants have gotten out of hand, but my main points (which, I can admit were drowned out in some, ... poorly phrased sentences) that I am trying to communicate is America may be a super power, but her government lacks the mental capacity to think it can change Iraq into a democracy just like that. If America, the worlds super power (which they are) can't contain a guerrilla war between the Sunni, and Shi'i, do you think its at all possible for a 3rd world country to do this? A country that has a totally different culture then that of the west?

    For Iraq democracy and an equal way of life is a big step, a step that war from a foregin state cannot institute lightly. In the long run getting Saddam out of the country was a good step but now that Americas backing out and "transferring" power, or as I like to put it "releiving themselves of responsibility for their war", what do you think wil happen? Poeple will rush to the polls to elect a government? Sunni and Shi'i will walk hand in hand? I predict a civil war, were thousands more will die. For the next few years, the Iraq people are not going to be thanking america. Rather, they will be cursing her name, as her backing out this june is only going to cause them more problems.

    "so if we're pussies, then what word would describe THOSE people?"

    THOSE people are smart. Why do you think Poland sent her GROM (Polish Special Forces) into Iraq? Cause everyone knows Americas an economic superpower, and Poland knows she has more to gain economically from keeping a good front with America and the EU. Something thats no easy task, as the "leading" nations of the Eu (Germany, France) are opposing America. A laughable group of states. Everyone knows America has a strong economy for now, so why not utilise it. Remember jsut because a "weaker" cuontry is "sucking up to" your country (which Poland is not, we got payed quite a lot of money to sen GROM into iraq) doesnt mean they respect your country. Its an economically sound think to do with a national debt of 60 billion dollars to do anything for money.

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    Originally posted by: FearTheMullet

    I am from Poland. Not Germany. .
    Hey!! I was right!! BTW, do you like Jerzy Dudek?? I like him too. Go LIverpool! Sorry. Sidetracking.
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    Hmm Chambers, if they do have a martial law like the discussion earlier, the numbers would be more realistic. Especially to have a full blown war like that, the Gov would throw in everything they got.

    But that is the CIA book whatever. Who are we to dispute?

    And the US army does have the Anti-Nuclear tactical weapons or something like that I was hearing in the news.. Saying that it can take out a nuclear arm weapon from a distance before it touches US's soil.

    US is still the worlds superpower, supirior technology so what not. But it's impossible for them to rule over countries. Too many God damn liberals!! Hah [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
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    Originally posted by: Stoopider
    Originally posted by: FearTheMullet

    I am from Poland. Not Germany. .
    Hey!! I was right!! BTW, do you like Jerzy Dudek?? I like him too. Go LIverpool! Sorry. Sidetracking.
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    Stoopider do you like every team in the Premiership? I remember you commented on my old Man City related sig (that I don't have anymore) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

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    Originally posted by: Swallow Your Soul

    Stoopider do you like every team in the Premiership? I remember you commented on my old Man City related sig (that I don't have anymore) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
    (Another SIdetrack)
    I'm a supporter of 3 teams. Sorry because I don't live in England, therefore I might not have such loyal strong support as you guys, and I know how fanatical you are. However If I had the time and money, I'll love to go to UK and just sit in the matches at the stadium.

    I watch on tv all the time though. My number one love is Liverpool followed by Manchester City(I'm a Kevin Keegan Fan, and their restocking the Old Liverpool squad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img], but I think it's mostly I like how Man city plays).

    Yeah.. FearTheMullet. Polish national team is really strange. You guys can beat champions but yet can lose to nobodies. At least you got the prides "I beat them's"
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    Originally posted by: Stoopider
    Originally posted by: Swallow Your Soul

    Stoopider do you like every team in the Premiership? I remember you commented on my old Man City related sig (that I don't have anymore) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
    (Another SIdetrack)
    I'm a supporter of 3 teams. Sorry because I don't live in England, therefore I might not have such loyal strong support as you guys, and I know how fanatical you are. However If I had the time and money, I'll love to go to UK and just sit in the matches at the stadium.

    I watch on tv all the time though. My number one love is Liverpool followed by Manchester City(I'm a Kevin Keegan Fan, and their restocking the Old Liverpool squad [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img], but I think it's mostly I like how Man city plays).

    Yeah.. FearTheMullet. Polish national team is really strange. You guys can beat champions but yet can lose to nobodies. At least you got the prides "I beat them's"
    Yeah just to sidetrack one final time...anyone who likes the Blues over United is allowed to like the scousers (Liverpool).

    KK rocks, only scary thing is that we have no money to buy new players for next season (shame we can't afford Daniel Van Buyten who would have been happy to join - he was a fucking mammoth in defence!).

    It sounds like City have a lot in common with the Polish national team then...we beat United 4-1 at Eastlands yet we lost to shit teams like Wolves, Portsmouth, Leeds, Leicester etc, despite playing good football. Next season will be ours [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

    The one consolation for our awful season is the fact that United came 3rd (muhahahahahaha) and went out of the Champions League.

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    Originally posted by: Stoopider
    Originally posted by: FearTheMullet

    I am from Poland. Not Germany. .
    Hey!! I was right!! BTW, do you like Jerzy Dudek?? I like him too. Go LIverpool! Sorry. Sidetracking.
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    Hmm Chambers, if they do have a martial law like the discussion earlier, the numbers would be more realistic. Especially to have a full blown war like that, the Gov would throw in everything they got.

    But that is the CIA book whatever. Who are we to dispute?

    And the US army does have the Anti-Nuclear tactical weapons or something like that I was hearing in the news.. Saying that it can take out a nuclear arm weapon from a distance before it touches US's soil.

    US is still the worlds superpower, supirior technology so what not. But it's impossible for them to rule over countries. Too many God damn liberals!! Hah [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

    Dman striagh , Jerzy's the man. Sadly Poland didnt qualify to Eurocup...but at least we beat Italy in a friendly. FIFA here we come!

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