Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
the reason why there's never a fight on our turf is cause everyone else is afraid to attack us directly....
so if we're pussies, then what word would describe THOSE people? geez do you always contradict yourself in your statements?

Originally posted by: FearTheMullet
They dont perfer Saddams tyranny, but they sure as hell dont want Americas
you were right up until that comma, im afraid....for it seems they do in fact want a democratic government

as for your obviously exaggerrated opinions about hundreds of millions of people.....nice attempt on your stereotyping, but it seems even people who dont live in america are calling you a dumbass......so i suggest you go find some other activity to play with, rather than making a fool of yourself within the safe confines of your little computer desk......your mullet has "tree hugging hippie" written all over it [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

i think the thing that surprises me most, is that it seems you're from germany....and before us an our allies intervened, your government was killing millions of your people, as you had mentioned yourself........
yet.....you.....DO have a problem with outsiders helping to free a country from its government? I think you better take a look in the mirror at the face that might not exist if it wasnt for our country

I am from Poland. Not Germany. Close but no cigar. And Iraq is far form free. If you read the rest of what I put, you might have caught the part about the difference in culture. Like I said, it'll never work. Iraq, a country which has been imprisoned by a dictator will not become democratic in one year jsut because America thinks they can do it. It's impossible.

I never said they didnt want, or wont desire a democratic way of life. But a democratic way of life can not be pushed upon them by America invading them. This isn't like when Germany had a Democratic puppet government installed. They have been living for hundreds of years in a different culture with religious fanatacism. I know my previous rants have gotten out of hand, but my main points (which, I can admit were drowned out in some, ... poorly phrased sentences) that I am trying to communicate is America may be a super power, but her government lacks the mental capacity to think it can change Iraq into a democracy just like that. If America, the worlds super power (which they are) can't contain a guerrilla war between the Sunni, and Shi'i, do you think its at all possible for a 3rd world country to do this? A country that has a totally different culture then that of the west?

For Iraq democracy and an equal way of life is a big step, a step that war from a foregin state cannot institute lightly. In the long run getting Saddam out of the country was a good step but now that Americas backing out and "transferring" power, or as I like to put it "releiving themselves of responsibility for their war", what do you think wil happen? Poeple will rush to the polls to elect a government? Sunni and Shi'i will walk hand in hand? I predict a civil war, were thousands more will die. For the next few years, the Iraq people are not going to be thanking america. Rather, they will be cursing her name, as her backing out this june is only going to cause them more problems.

"so if we're pussies, then what word would describe THOSE people?"

THOSE people are smart. Why do you think Poland sent her GROM (Polish Special Forces) into Iraq? Cause everyone knows Americas an economic superpower, and Poland knows she has more to gain economically from keeping a good front with America and the EU. Something thats no easy task, as the "leading" nations of the Eu (Germany, France) are opposing America. A laughable group of states. Everyone knows America has a strong economy for now, so why not utilise it. Remember jsut because a "weaker" cuontry is "sucking up to" your country (which Poland is not, we got payed quite a lot of money to sen GROM into iraq) doesnt mean they respect your country. Its an economically sound think to do with a national debt of 60 billion dollars to do anything for money.