childhood drama? you make it sound as if it wasn't really anything. try 'childhood TRAUMA.'
childhood drama? you make it sound as if it wasn't really anything. try 'childhood TRAUMA.'
this is very true, looks like i have been PWNED myself...Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
Listen, in terms of power, Shikamaru is one of the weakest ninjas around. Yet, as you may well know, he was the *only* one to be promoted to Chunnin.Originally posted by: ssjtrunks585
i Is that the kind of person you want showing you up in the end? Let's come to grips here, if that ever, EVER happened to me, i would flip out and want more power as well. ...
Why? Because he uses his intelligence as a weapon.
So, how about Sasuke *growing up* and realizing that it's not a matter of individual power but *teamwork* and it's not a matter of going on with his petty personal revenge based on his childhood drama, but a matter of fighting for the village?
How about him shoving his childish pride and envy and working *with* Naruto, and not *against* him?
Gai and Kakashi are rivals, but when they needed to fight the Sand nins, they worked together.
Dude..using Chidori 4 times is just idiocy. People hate sasuke simply because he's a selfish loser who ran off to Oro, betraying his village, instead of just TRAINING HARDER. Being an individual with raw talent, training as hard as rock lee must be alien to sasuke - hes a brat who wants power fast. Who cares about the long term effects.Originally posted by: ssjtrunks585
i dont understand what everyone hates about Sasuke? Is it the fact that he's too smart or strong? Or is it the fact that he has the will to conitune his life to accomplish one goal, and only one goal? The fact that he's committed enough to sacrifice himself and use Chidori 4 times, when his body can handle no more than 3 attempts? Could it maybe be the fact that Sasuke is mad at Naruto because Naruto could quite possibly be the worst main character ever (except maybe for Shinji in Neon Genesis Evangelion..."ewwww...I don't wanna pilot this thing...waaaaaaah..."....lol). yet Naruto could PWN Sasuke? I think it would piss me off if (just for example) my little brother ever got strong enough to kick my ass. Remember during the Zabuza saga when Sasuke was trapped in the ice mirrors and Naruto...um...WALKED INSIDE THEM? Is that the kind of person you want showing you up in the end? Let's come to grips here, if that ever, EVER happened to me, i would flip out and want more power as well. I gotta admit though, as of lately, Naruto has been getting a lot more Ninja-like, and a lot less Lucky (Gaara's weak point just happened to be his tail). This brings me to the end of my views, so now i will say which character i would want to "die"...and that person is...Orochimaru...by Sasuke...
- Please don't hate me for this post, and if you have any really jerkface replies (like calling me gay or something), keep them to yourselves please...stuff like that is a waste of precious bytes of space on the servers...
i understand that...i said i was PWNED already...the meaning i was shooting for is that he has dedication for the one goal in his life: to kill his brother. true dedication may be to train harder and keep things (like your village, for example) sacred. i see dedication as devoting everything you have to accomplish what it is youre dedicated to, even if you have to stray from your original path a bit...i cant remember exactly who said "it's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it..."(think it was bugs bunny (and many others, lol)). i interpret that quote as doing whatever it takes to get the job done...Now, this is simply my outlook on the matter, most people aren't going to agree with me, but i ask that whoever reads this at least ATTEMPTS to look at it my way...Originally posted by: Harageki
Dude..using Chidori 4 times is just idiocy. People hate sasuke simply because he's a selfish loser who ran off to Oro, betraying his village, instead of just TRAINING HARDER. Being an individual with raw talent, training as hard as rock lee must be alien to sasuke - hes a brat who wants power fast. Who cares about the long term effects.
The fact is that revenge won't bring his family back, no matter how many times he kills Itachi, his death wouldn't change the past.Originally posted by: ssjtrunks585
i understand that...i said i was PWNED already...the meaning i was shooting for is that he has dedication for the one goal in his life: to kill his brother. true dedication may be to train harder and keep things (like your village, for example) sacred. i see dedication as devoting everything you have to accomplish what it is youre dedicated to, even if you have to stray from your original path a bit...i cant remember exactly who said "it's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it..."(think it was bugs bunny (and many others, lol)). i interpret that quote as doing whatever it takes to get the job done...Now, this is simply my outlook on the matter, most people aren't going to agree with me, but i ask that whoever reads this at least ATTEMPTS to look at it my way...Originally posted by: Harageki
Dude..using Chidori 4 times is just idiocy. People hate sasuke simply because he's a selfish loser who ran off to Oro, betraying his village, instead of just TRAINING HARDER. Being an individual with raw talent, training as hard as rock lee must be alien to sasuke - hes a brat who wants power fast. Who cares about the long term effects.
People survived concentration camps and got over it. I don't think the survivors with some sense, dedicated the rest of their lives to seek revenge. On the contrary, many of them realized how important life was after that dreadful experience. Viktor Frankel is one of those guys, but I digress.
Obviously, what happened to Sasuke must have cause extreme psychological damage. But the way Hinata's father treats her also cause *lots* of psychological problems to her, and basically she can't and she won't kill her dad. Neji and Gaara also got their share of childhood crap, and are trying to survive the best they can. At a certain point of their existences, thanks to Naruto, they realized that what their actions weren't beneficial to them, and tried to change.
The fact is revenge is stupid, well easier said than understood... But, Itachi will eventually die, victim of his own actions, because if you plant weeds you won't reap roses. If Sasuke kills him, he will just be doing exactly the same thing that Itachi did. So, would Sasuke be actually *better* than Itachi?
IMO, he'd be making better use of his time training and getting married, so he would rebuilt his clan. It's kinda paradoxal that somebody who wants to rebild his family wants to kill the only other remaining member of it...
Obviously, it's a situation where extreme dark emotions are involved, so easier said than done. But Sasuke has Kakashi to advise him and be a father figure and a role model to him. He has Naruto, who, all in all is a nice guy, being annoying not withstanding. And Sakura, who in her own peculiar way likes him and could offer some emotional support to him.
So he has a problem, but he also had alternative to solve his problem other than taking a short cut that ultimately will destroy him.
As for *winning* a debate, I really don't believe it it. I think most people here, and the exceptions justify the rule, are here to use this forum and the anime as a way to reflect about human nature.
Naruto's characters are pretty decently structured, and that's why we can discuss them and even learn something with that...[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
AMEN! And nice cliche, btw... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
But, Itachi will eventually die, victim of his own actions, because if you plant weeds you won't reap roses.
i wish i possessed the pull-cliches-that-actually-relate-to-what-i'm-talking-about technique (pctartwita no jutsu)... :-( mine usually always suck...Originally posted by: ssjtrunks585
"it's a dirty job, but somebody's gotta do it..."
see? now thats a good one...Originally posted by: Neji-Aniki-sama
if you plant weeds you won't reap roses.
Aren't there other discussion posts similar to this?
Anyhow I've already said that Choji should die to make Shikamaru finally become a serious ninja (coming to realize that being lazy can affect the people you order around, and endanger your friends). Neji - still hasn't realized his dream, so he'll probably live. Kiba and rest will probably live since the sand are there to help. Sasuke will live, Naruto will live - to what ends we don't know.
Kabuto should die, he should be hanged for his mutenous ways, and Oro should be beheaded lets see him pull a snake out of his house in that situation
R.I.P Captain America.
As soon as they spoke about the 8 gates way back when, I predicted that eventually Gai would die because there would be some great evil force or something, and Gai would have to release the 8th gate and take this villain down hard.
It will be called Shikamaru, and they'll use Haruka Kanata as the opening again.If Naruto dies what would Naruto be called??
On that note, Sakura could die, and when she does uhh... y'know... Naruto could go on a guest for the 7 Fox Balls to wish her back and spark up Naruto Z.
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