Episode 84 Discussion (SPOILERS)

[NomoZ]

Originally posted by: ShinobiNeko
I really would like to see Itachi's side of the story as to why he did that. To me seems there is more to it than just a measuring stick, to remember him saying it was 'important' that he did so...so I wonder what made it so important...

I think that's all he wanted to do, and the reason it was important to him is because he had to know if he was the strongest, and what better place to start with than the most powerful clan in the village. Considering he's part of a group that is searching for ways to become more and more powerful, I think he's obsessed with strength.

[Jchiang87]

good thing kisame's sword stopped naruto from summoning gamabunta.



summoning 100ft toads indoors of a hotel in a crowded town is not a good thing.


naruto isn't too bright :x

and neither is sasuke, as gai and rock lee explained during the exams, chidori is just a straight thrust, someone with sharingan can see it from a mile away, itachi probably couldve just moved out the way and push sasuke so his chidori would go right through naruto, that wouldve sucked :x


also i watch bakafish ver and i have no idea wth jiraiya was talking about at the end

[gokudagreat]

I think half of what Jiraiya was trying to say (and the translation was poor on this part) was that at his age no women of her beauty would just come up to him and start flirting... and the few that would he could interpret them really well with his "studies"

I dont think Itachi is innocent at all, but there definitely has to be more than "testing himself" to it... first of all he killed grandparents and women... those he KNEW he was better than already... and he kept Sasuke alive... I still think if youve played FFX you know how sin i.e. Jecht wants Tidus to kill him cause he wants to be put out of his misery, but no one is powerful to do it so he wants Tidus to become powerful enough... I think its the same with Itachi... he is really wants to die but he wants to do it by the hands of someone else (Sasuke) and that way someone will finally be better than him... maybe hes also bored cause hes so much better than everyone that no ones a challenge and he wants Sasuke to be that challenge

[SK]

why doesnt he let gravity kill him then?

[gokudagreat]

Well what im saying is he wants to die by someone elses hands.. or something like that... it just seems typical of like a tragic villain who actually just wants to be put out of his misery i might be totally off but i dunno

[Uchiha Barles]

Maybe Sasuke has a goal, and that goal requires him to be colder than ice. If so, killing his own clan was a test of that. He's might be one of the "destroy the world for the good of humanity" types.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: gokudagreat
I think half of what Jiraiya was trying to say (and the translation was poor on this part) was that at his age no women of her beauty would just come up to him and start flirting... and the few that would he could interpret them really well with his "studies"

I dont think Itachi is innocent at all, but there definitely has to be more than "testing himself" to it... first of all he killed grandparents and women... those he KNEW he was better than already... and he kept Sasuke alive... I still think if youve played FFX you know how sin i.e. Jecht wants Tidus to kill him cause he wants to be put out of his misery, but no one is powerful to do it so he wants Tidus to become powerful enough... I think its the same with Itachi... he is really wants to die but he wants to do it by the hands of someone else (Sasuke) and that way someone will finally be better than him... maybe hes also bored cause hes so much better than everyone that no ones a challenge and he wants Sasuke to be that challenge

man, people always try to make big deal out of the littlest things.

what jiraiya said is basically this: "i am a pimp and i can see right through the fake hoes."

that's it.

and how can itachi not be innocent... what other possibility is there? who else could've killed all those uchihas? yeah, there were bunch of shitty uchihas but i'm sure there were also good ones. at the end, i guess itachi was the best one. and itachi probably didn't bother killing anyone else cuz he knows that only a full blooded uchiha can defeat another uchiha since no one can stand up to his mangekyou sharingan.

[logic]

Noone flame me, because this is a sincere question and i'm hesitant in asking it, because of all the itachi/sharingan fan-freaks.

The sharingan has the ability to copy anothers abilities when its seen, does this have to be triggered by the sharingan user, or is it automatic.. i.e. gaaras sand defense.

Also, if it was automatic or semi-automatic, does this mean sauske could theoretically have copied the mangekyou sharingan (kaleidoscope)

And please, if your answering based on a THEORY you have, please tell me its your theory, and if its factual, tell me as well.

[Wassup Doc]

Is it me or is Itachi a bit too old in the flashback . He looks older than Sasuke at the same age.

[Mut]

Originally posted by: logic
Noone flame me, because this is a sincere question and i'm hesitant in asking it, because of all the itachi/sharingan fan-freaks.

The sharingan has the ability to copy anothers abilities when its seen, does this have to be triggered by the sharingan user, or is it automatic.. i.e. gaaras sand defense.

Also, if it was automatic or semi-automatic, does this mean sauske could theoretically have copied the mangekyou sharingan (kaleidoscope)

And please, if your answering based on a THEORY you have, please tell me its your theory, and if its factual, tell me as well.

no one knows for sure if sharingan can copy jutsus automatically.

theory: i assume that it's not automatic and its user can only copy what he/she wants to copy.

fact: we know for sure that kakashi's sharingan (which is an implant) must be covered by his forehead protector to prevent it from being 'active.' unlike itachi, kakashi's sharingan uses up chakra no matter what unless it is covered.

no one knows if kakashi's sharingan automatically copies things or not, but i think it's same as itachi's or sasuke's, it copies what its user wants to copy. the only problem for kakashi is that he can't turn off his sharingan so he covers it up from consuming chakra.

fact: sasuke can't copy mangekyou sharingan. his sharingan is not developed enough.

theory: another reason why sasuke can't copy it is because it's an advanced bloodline technique. yes, it's the uchiha bloodline technique, but it's still an advanced bloodline technique no matter what.

[viciousHyuuga]

maybe it was a royal rumble.. to see the next leader of the uchiha clan =) or maybe if u kill a uchiha member u gain his or her powers.. or maybe it was a group dispute, cause how many did he have to fight was it 50 on 1 or what..
or maybe itachi has a alter ego(maybe like fight club altar ego).. ither way he did it.


but i dont see motive, he had potential to be 5th hokage + if he wanted to check his strength he could of just raped other stronger ninjas or something,