Well I know this doesn't affect the strength of the jutus but consider this, Kakashi created the Chidori, the 4th who is much greater created the Rasengan and it took him 3 years.
But Jiraiya himself said that the Rasengan is better than the Chidori and it is a whatever level next to the top level jutsu.
who ever said that the 4th created the rasengan? nobody?Originally posted by: asdf-man
Well I know this doesn't affect the strength of the jutus but consider this, Kakashi created the Chidori, the 4th who is much greater created the Rasengan and it took him 3 years.
But Jiraiya himself said that the Rasengan is better than the Chidori and it is a whatever level next to the top level jutsu.
10/4/04 - 8/20/07
and i bet that if naruto made 3 clones he coud do a spinny thing in both hands cause it doesnt require a massive amount of chakra
man ASS you are a man for details..... and i like that. i take ur word more than anybody else and i like readin ur little fights with people about this
its obvious Naruto is gonna win. He may have been doing badly in all their little "competitions" but that doesn't show naruto's true strength. And besides he's the main character, and hero, so OBVIOUSLY he's gonna defeat every evil and person there is in the whole series!
"He is the main character" doesnt really mean anything to determine who wins a given fight.. The main character can be beaten or killed in anime, it happens. It may not happen in a "fair" way or the main character may hold back or be distracted for some reason.. but they can lose.
its anime too...you can't always assume that the main character is gonna live.
but i'd like to see itachi copy the chidori and use it against jiraiya's technique
well who would win in a fight can be gathered from Sasuke's reactions to Naruto, he is shocked and amazed at just how powerful Naruto is, that plus the fact that he beats Gaara who Sasuke could barely cut, even after becoming/calling the humongous badger
now as far as which technique is a better/stronger technique, Jiraiya's def. because first the power of the move is drawn from the chakra and the movement of the chakra, where chidori's power is all based on the speed of the thrust of the person, that shows that the actual energy is weaker because it requires higher speed to do dmg, its like a raw egg and an iron ball, the raw egg needs to move at 200+mph to do the same dmg as the iron ball going 10 mph
also, sasuke learned chidori in a matter of days, whereas the 4th hokage himself took years to learn Jiraiya's move, also jiraiya describes the move in terms of tier (i believe he said second from the top?) and i know in my heart of hearts chidori is NOT in that top tier, especially seeing as there are already ninja way stronger than kakashi showing up
this is all aside from what's already been said, about how Naruto's incomplete energy of the move made him blow a ditch, and fly 50+ feet away (he wasnt even done flyin, jiraiya had to stop him) and as i said that was incomplete, only ONE of the steps, all these things and the fact that the teacher is jiraiya tell me that the technique is gonna be grade A
Ero-sennin's jutsu will win duh
chidori is charge up im not going spoil nething but everthing its bin used the target couldnt move or just didnt move thats why they could use it
only thing that is that chidori can go trough lighting and Ero-sennin's jutsu well lets just say your hand prolly will hurt allot
Its really hard to see what the chidori really does, IMO after watching what happened to Haku and all the times Sasuke used it, it looks like the Chidori is designed to(after it hits its target) make what ever it hits explode, When Kakashi did it to Haku you saw no blood on haku, it looked like it made the heart explode, IMO that what it does
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No blood is due to the censors. In the manga there is ALOT of blood when Haku is hit by chidori.Originally posted by: Knives122
Its really hard to see what the chidori really does, IMO after watching what happened to Haku and all the times Sasuke used it, it looks like the Chidori is designed to(after it hits its target) make what ever it hits explode, When Kakashi did it to Haku you saw no blood on haku, it looked like it made the heart explode, IMO that what it does
did that scene LOOK to you like it was censored in the anime?
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10/4/04 - 8/20/07
i dont think that was even chidori, there were no bird sounds, and he didnt run fast to him to do it, i think Lightning Edge and Chidori are 2 diff. variations of the same jutsu but Chidori would most likely be stronger, i could be wrong because i dont have the old eps on my comp to check but, i think kakashi also forms the chakra slightly different for the 2, i think one is with his hand up and one with his hand down, ill verify this sometime after gettin the eps onto my comp, also consider the level differences between Haku and Kakashi, its really not a very good indication of the power of a skill
after seeing Jiraiya's new skill tho i think it'd be a really cool one for Naruto because if he can do it, he could do it several times a day, aside from that, when you see it done to the chuunin in the marketplace, u see that it spins and carves into him, if he didnt get pushes back it'd probably have burrowed into him like the tree, so what'd be cool is naruto, early in the fight throws several kunai/shurikens at the enemy, then later on, by the time the enemy has forgotten about the thrown weaps., charges up the move, pushes it into the gut of his opponent and then reveals the kunai for what they were; transformed kage bunshins!, all of them run up and push the opponent forward while the ball surges with power into his abdomen, the ball then goes through the person thus eviscerating him and writing his character off of the show :-D
you are incorrect.Originally posted by: LegendarySenninJiraiya
i dont think that was even chidori, there were no bird sounds, and he didnt run fast to him to do it, i think Lightning Edge and Chidori are 2 diff. variations of the same jutsu but Chidori would most likely be stronger, i could be wrong because i dont have the old eps on my comp to check but, i think kakashi also forms the chakra slightly different for the 2, i think one is with his hand up and one with his hand down,
actually, they are the same jutsu. Gai explains it when Kakashi arrives in the 3rd part of the Chuunin exam, Sasuke VS Gaara
sasuke becuz hes super fast with chidori and can dodge or move away from slow narutos rasengan... but narutos rasengan is way stronger than sasukes chidori
To everyone concerning censorship: every episode before 26-27 was uncensored due to the fact that it was still a new series and did not pick up until that point, where its timeslot was moved into the golden time period. By moving it into the golden time timeslot, more children would be watching it, and therefore every episode from 26 onwards became censored before airing.
koreanriceboi: Naruto can become faster by using Kyuubi Chakra [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
Wrong. Why?Originally posted by: Kale Ironfist
To everyone concerning censorship: every episode before 26-27 was uncensored
1) Go to episode 18.
2) Skip ahead to 11:11 into the episode.
3) Verify that Kakashi's hand does not, in fact, pierce Haku.
4) Go here (copy and paste).
5) Verify that Kakashi's hand does, in fact, pierce Haku.
alright, so i forgot the chidori going right through Haku's entire body, but it does pierce his body and the amount of blood is still roughly the same.
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