Teen Titans Vs. Naruto

[DeathscytheVII]

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
btw, just a little tidbit you might find interesting.....
i'm friends with the girl who the original starfire (is that her name? the flying alien girl) was modelled after

Wait, original starfire? The cartoon one? Or comic book one (Bleh [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]) [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]

Starfire

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: DeathscytheVII

Originally posted by: AssertnFailure
btw, just a little tidbit you might find interesting.....
i'm friends with the girl who the original starfire (is that her name? the flying alien girl) was modelled after

Wait, original starfire? The cartoon one? Or comic book one (Bleh [img][/img]) [img][/img]

Starfire

man, the comic book starfire is ugly!

[Y]

Originally posted by: Deblas

Starfire

man, the comic book starfire is ugly![/quote]

80's art.

Better Titans art, the full version of the cover from that article

[Deblas]

Originally posted by: Y The Alien

Originally posted by: Deblas

Starfire

man, the comic book starfire is ugly!

80's art.

Better Titans art, the full version of the cover from that article[/quote]

now thats much better [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

[Assertn]

er.....wtf?
no she has nothing to do with the new cartoon starfire.....but um........i doubt that old comic book one was the one i had in mind either

she was actually like, 10-13 years old or something when she was modelled for it

[Assertn]

werent the teen titans supposed to be...........in their teens?

[Y]

they are, so, uh, what is the problem?

except for Cyborg who is a consultant.

[RasenDori]

Originally posted by: Y The Alien
they are, so, uh, what is the problem?

except for Cyborg who is a consultant.

ok... im not the most well versed person when it comes to DC, but... werent starfire, raven, cyborg, and beastboy on the same titans team as the first robin (dick grayson/ nightwing) as some point? if that is the case, they clearly arent teens anymore, since nightwing is somewhere in his 20s now.

Originally posted by: Y The Alien

Sure buddy, there is no personal drama in comicbooks! Because Watchmen and Sandman and The Walking Dead and V for Vendetta and Sin City and Preacher and Transmetropolitan just don't exist! all American comics must be "lol superheros lol" because PSJ says so. Also, all superheroes are nothing but one note characters defined only by their powers, because there has never been personal drama written about Clark Kent, or Bruce Wayne, or Kyle Rayner, or Hal Jordan, or Wally West, or Frank Castle, or Tony Stark, or any of the X-Men! Clearly, none of these characters are ever seen having "real life" drama. Every hero in comics just fights cosmic villains! You are also a motherfucking expert on comics from having watched 1 episode of a cartoon and picked up an issue every now and then!

Jesus Christ, you're fucking retarded. Shut up. You judged a character based on your vast amount of experience, which consists of watching him once while you ate? What an incredibly stupid, judgemental retard. You think that every superhero comic is just "a bunch of heroes" who "rescue the universe"? Well, gee PSJ, maybe you think that because all you have ever fucking seen is Justice League and you've never read an entire TPB in your life! Yet you still feel qualified to make judgements; probably a result of your failed sense of personal empowerment.

I should make a blatantly trolling post like yours, only directed at the Japanese animation industry:

Man, I sure fucking hate those Japanese animes. Most ones made within the last fifteen years are just generic Shounen trash shoveled out by the same three TV animation studios in order to cash in on the success of popular manga! Japanese TV animation is absurdly low quality because of the vast amount being done by the studio, but they can count on dipshit fans who only watch it because of the Japanese art style or generic fighting action/shitty japanese comedy/unrealistic, unbelievably stupid romance to rake in the cash on DVD sales! Japanese TV anime has not a speck of original talent running through it, as the animation, plotlines, and characters are just recycled from manga that is only produced for a quick buck from gullible fanboys anyway!

Oh wait. That is all fucking true! And unlike you, I actually have experienced some of the stuff I am talking about.

preach on brother. if you guys hate american books give those that he listed a try. ive read V for vendetta, watchmen, and preacher, they are all gold. give rising stars a try too... ive only read like 2 issues of it, but it rocks (like i said, anything with strazynskys name on it kicks ass... unless it involves spider-man and the negative zone... leave the neg zone for the fantastic four... please)

and if anyone else wants to make broad generalizations about american books, take a good look at all the shonen books out there... they ALL basically follow the exact same character schemes. at least american books dont have the same personality running around in 15 million different books.

EDIT: btw Y, i dont keep up with american books as much as a should because im currently jobless, but i would like to know... since when did spoiler become robin, and why did tim quit?

[Y]

ok... im not the most well versed person when it comes to DC, but... werent starfire, raven, cyborg, and beastboy on the same titans team as the first robin (dick grayson/ nightwing) as some point? if that is the case, they clearly arent teens anymore, since nightwing is somewhere in his 20s now.

I think Nightwing is just barely 20 or 21 - remember, time is quite fluid in DC, and they de-aged most of the heroes in Crisis. Also, Cyborg isn't a teenager, but Raven is (her body was destroyed and reformed a bit younger than it was previously). Starfire isn't a teenager anymore either, she's on the Titans as an honorary position. Beast Boy was just really young when he joined.

Also, Tim quit being Robin when his father found out who he was. Batman put Spoiler in his place until he returned, then she got fired, which let to the events in War Games (in which something pretty big happens to Spoiler).

[?igma]

Ok generally, if it was for the win in power, the teens would beat Naruto..why ?, because nothing can beat Americans ofcourse!!, only Taliban can, and they are considered "unreal"by the American government.
American art and comics all come down to one point. The American superiority. Their adults rock! and Their TEENS ROCK!!
American comics, as Japanese comics (after all that would be the exact translation of anime), are based upon one mainchar and some sidechars, however the sidechars in Anime are often more left in the background (ok so not in Naruto, but still) where the American comics revel in making every single one of their sidekicks superheroes on them selves!!, why, because its merchandise!! Whats is better then to sell rerun over rerun over rerun?? Sell the EXACT same stories with a DIFFERENT mainchar!!! briliant! and what would the best mainchar be? the best sidekick from the LAST SERIES!! XD ohMG Americans do rock.

If we would talk about storyline, animation, indepth emotions, personalities, athmosphere, sensibility, music, VOCALS!!@@!! (and I'm leaving DBZ out, bc the Japanese vocals of DBZ are teh suck and teh gay and teh fag ..well whatever) and most !!! important!!! SPIRIT!!! the Japanese anime would stretch its pink and molest the American comics. RAPE it would be!! TERRORRIST ATTACK it would be!! BANG@@@, the pillars of the American youth would crumble in front of their eyes. And even one reason would suffice for this. The American comic has no spirit. It is gathered by eons of history and grabbed straight from other comics. Americans have NO SENSE of HUMOR, thus they can not EVER come close to some of the most WORST anime in the Japanese history, let alone what a BRILIANT anime would leave of the American pride.

NOTHING!

[Terracosmo]

Y has many good points.

I don't agree with people saying that "american comics sucks aszzz". Granted, they are quite different from japanese ones but that's definately not only bad. I love the X-Men, I loved the Daredevil comic I had as a kid (his past was like super-cool) and I've worshipped Gambit a longer time than I've worshipped Neji, Yzak & Kimimaro together. All hail american comics!

[RasenDori]

Originally posted by: Terracosmo
Y has many good points.

I don't agree with people saying that "american comics sucks aszzz". Granted, they are quite different from japanese ones but that's definately not only bad. I love the X-Men, I loved the Daredevil comic I had as a kid (his past was like super-cool) and I've worshipped Gambit a longer time than I've worshipped Neji, Yzak & Kimimaro together. All hail american comics!

you worship neji and gambit!!!
we are too much alike its scary! (by the way, you should read xtreme x-men, gambits is absolutly excellent in it)

EDIT: this needs to be said:

Originally posted by: ?igma
Ok generally, if it was for the win in power, the teens would beat Naruto..why ?, because nothing can beat Americans ofcourse!!, only Taliban can, and they are considered "unreal"by the American government.
American art and comics all come down to one point. The American superiority. Their adults rock! and Their TEENS ROCK!!
American comics, as Japanese comics (after all that would be the exact translation of anime), are based upon one mainchar and some sidechars, however the sidechars in Anime are often more left in the background (ok so not in Naruto, but still) where the American comics revel in making every single one of their sidekicks superheroes on them selves!!, why, because its merchandise!! Whats is better then to sell rerun over rerun over rerun?? Sell the EXACT same stories with a DIFFERENT mainchar!!! briliant! and what would the best mainchar be? the best sidekick from the LAST SERIES!! XD ohMG Americans do rock.

If we would talk about storyline, animation, indepth emotions, personalities, athmosphere, sensibility, music, VOCALS!!@@!! (and I'm leaving DBZ out, bc the Japanese vocals of DBZ are teh suck and teh gay and teh fag ..well whatever) and most !!! important!!! SPIRIT!!! the Japanese anime would stretch its pink and molest the American comics. RAPE it would be!! TERRORRIST ATTACK it would be!! BANG@@@, the pillars of the American youth would crumble in front of their eyes. And even one reason would suffice for this. The American comic has no spirit. It is gathered by eons of history and grabbed straight from other comics. Americans have NO SENSE of HUMOR, thus they can not EVER come close to some of the most WORST anime in the Japanese history, let alone what a BRILIANT anime would leave of the American pride.

iNOTHING!

ts true that merchindising and sales have to do with a lot of the crap that flows out here in america, however the same remains true in japan. money corupts all. to weed out all the crap and find the good stuff you should do like i do and follow certain writers, read reviews, avoid books with the names of side characters as the title, and dammit... listen to me and Y. we arent trying to steer you wrong. too many people here make broad generalizations about american books with out giving them much of a chance. you are now better then the guys on that site that made the same generalizations about manga and anime. face it:

YOU ARE BOTH WRONG!!!

someon had to be reasonalbe enough to say it. the truth of the matter is that the comic book (american or japanese, don give me that crap about how manga is not a comic book) is work of art. sure some times its been butchered by capitalism, but so has film. like painting the comics style changes based upon culture. so y dont you guys just stfu, and stop being ignorant asses that base their entire knowledge on american books on horrilbe american cartoons and a few bad x-men and spider-man comics you read in the mid 90s. think about it, if i based my entire knowledge of manga after on reading DBZ or coasic rune (its bad, very very bad, avoid it at all cost) would i be able to make an acurate assumption about the thousands of manga stories that exist? HELL NO! people like you that makes these broad assumptions about american books, and the people on that other site that do the same for manga are the very reason comic books dont get the literary respect they deserve. ... sigh... but its true that i want to write and draw comics one day... so i can go on about this for ages... i will spare you the rest of my rant and get off of my soap box

[Terracosmo]

I can't recall many marvel comics I read that was about saving the universe...

[PSJ]

i read some mega marvel volumes with some gang of super heroes fighting a big witch or something. and the spiderman tv series had that theme a number of times. the rest of what i read wasnt all that interesting to me they were focusing to much on the super hero and his fighting to save the world, becmae boring pretty quick.

[jing]

Originally posted by: Pervert-Sennin Jiraiya
i read some mega marvel volumes with some gang of super heroes fighting a big witch or something. and the spiderman tv series had that theme a number of times. the rest of what i read wasnt all that interesting to me they were focusing to much on the super hero and his fighting to save the world, becmae boring pretty quick.

psj, you don't sound like you know much or something. gotta be more specific.

[PSJ]

i dont know much either never claimed i did. the mega marvel story was some group with cpatian america and a girl who could become small and shit and aobut 50 others. scarlett witch was in it to and a guy named wonder man who was supposed to be dead, they fought a evil celtic witch or something who wanted to destroy the earth or rule it or something i think, i read it like 7 years ago.... i also read about an x men story in mega marvel where they saved the universe or something i dont remember to clearly. as for the spiderman tv series it was the one with madam web and all the parellel universe with carnage spiderman wanting to blow everything up.... if that isnt specific enough im sorry i dont know much more than that really. as you probably get my experience with american comics is quite limited.....

so i can agree to that it was stupid of me to start discussing aobut this stuff with my limited knowledge but oh well done is done. another thing i dont like about american comics is how they change artists and how american comics really have no end. i want a begining and an end of a story.

[LobsterMagnet]

American comics are so fricking convoluted. There are to many alternate universes/dimensions. To many cross overs and teams ups. The time-lines and universes all intersect and bisect and contridict one another. None of it ever makes sense to me. Thats why I never got into american comics.

Teen Titans suck. I've never read the real comics but judging from the artwork they don't look that tough. Robin is their leader right? He isn't even a real fricking super hero. He has no powers. Just his wits and a utility belt. I've seen the animated teen titans and they suck even more. I hate it when american animation series try to imitate anime. Plus the Teen Titans seems to consist of C- super heros who combat D+ villians. Has anyone ever seen the show? They spend a whole episode chasing down a magician. A MAGICIAN for christ sake. Naruto wins hands down.

Man this is dumb thread. I wonder who would win? Naruto vs. Captain Nemo. Naruto vs. the Hulk. Naruto vs. Battle Star Galactica. Naruto and team 7 vs. the Fantastic Four. Or how about the entire Leaf village vs. The Covenent from halo or the Combine from Half-Life2.

[Thunder_Pants]

wasn't Silver Surfers arch enemy a planet or at least planet sized being that liked to eat other planets and then move on to the next planet

sounds like stoping him is saving the universe.....but whatever

you know, one thing i never understood about the Marvel universe was all the anti-mutant sentiment i mean, they are ok with people having all maner of super powers as long as they are from radiation accidents/a vitimin supliment/etc, but not if it's genetic?

but then i think the marvel character that baffles me the most is the Hulks nemmisis The Leader:

Lets see Hero: Big green dumb strong guy Villion Small green smart guy
not very creative and the moral ends up being "clever planning and logic can never win against the sheer physical brutality of a guy who barely even knows where he is" this is not the moral your average comic book reader wants to read

[chambers]

some cross overs are good. and im sure its somthing anime and manga writers/producers would do if one studio owned the rights to 2 or more hugley succesfull franchises based in a similar time persiod or setting.

[PSJ]

we get it Y you know your stuff but dont be an ass about it.