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    Well, their relationship was initially good. When it soured, it only really soured one way, and it was sasuke who was the one holding the grudge. Once Sasuke found out the truth, the hatred disappeared. Since Itachi never really had any hatred, and his lies have been shattered anyway, there's no reason for their relationship to be anything less that what it would've been under normal circumstances. Nevermind that Itachi is a zombie.
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    Well, their relationship was initially good. When it soured, it only really soured one way, and it was sasuke who was the one holding the grudge. Once Sasuke found out the truth, the hatred disappeared. Since Itachi never really had any hatred, and his lies have been shattered anyway, there's no reason for their relationship to be anything less that what it would've been under normal circumstances. Nevermind that Itachi is a zombie.
    Sasuke is currently out to piss on everything Itachi stood for by killing the greatest hope for the future of Konoha. When he "figured out the truth" he lost his fucking mind and started using it as a justification for murder. Sasuke knows the facts right now, but what he got out of them is the exact opposite lesson Itachi wanted to teach him.

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    The reason it's so interesting is because this breaks the cliche direction Kishimoto's been driving towards from the very beginning -- that being Sasuke turning irreversibly consumed by hatred until his ultimate demise by Naruto's hands.
    I disagree, because not only would it make no thematic sense in a Shounen comic for the protagonist's childhood friend who went dark to be unredeemable, but it's actually against Jump's publishing guildelines to murder children, so this story resolution would be impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
    I disagree, because not only would it make no thematic sense in a Shounen comic for the protagonist's childhood friend who went dark to be unredeemable, but it's actually against Jump's publishing guildelines to murder children, so this story resolution would be impossible.
    But... Tsunade's little brother was murdered.
    Anyway, irredeemable in the sense that he has to be subjected to Naruto's friend-power-no-jutsu after a near-death experience by both parties, which subsequently concludes the whole damn story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Assertn View Post
    But... Tsunade's little brother was murdered.
    Not on panel. I'm saying there can't be a scene where Naruto Rasengans him to death or something.

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    Not on panel. I'm saying there can't be a scene where Naruto Rasengans him to death or something.
    What about Haku..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyubisrage View Post
    What about Haku..
    Yea, didn't Kakahshi plunge his arm through Haku? Also, Obito was crushed by a rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockmanj View Post
    Yea, didn't Kakahshi plunge his arm through Haku? Also, Obito was crushed by a rock.
    And don't forget Nagato's dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
    Not on panel. I'm saying there can't be a scene where Naruto Rasengans him to death or something.
    Im not so sure its not allowed. in HXH:

    *spoiler*
    The king kills that 4 year old girl on farm
    */spoiler*


    Although Tagashi does have an extra special golden contract with Jump, so maybe thats why he was allowed to show the death of a kid. But at any point, Sasuke is 17 years old, I think he's old enough to die. Not that I think he will, but i wouldnt say it cant happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y View Post
    Sasuke is currently out to piss on everything Itachi stood for by killing the greatest hope for the future of Konoha. When he "figured out the truth" he lost his fucking mind and started using it as a justification for murder. Sasuke knows the facts right now, but what he got out of them is the exact opposite lesson Itachi wanted to teach him.
    I'm not saying Sasuke didn't lose his shit. I'm saying that he still has love for his brother and he's not just going to stand there and watch Itachi fight for his "life". Since Itachi's love for Sasuke has been consistent even up to this point, it only makes sense given the situation that they fight together, and that they behave like best buds while doing so. They view each other as misguided and tragic, but there's no hatred between the two, only sadness, confusion (for Sasuke), and disappointment (for Itachi). Love is going to outweigh those things though. Based on these things, I think the way they're behaving right now is spot on.
    "You are not free whose liberty is won by the rigour of other, more righteous souls. Your are merely protected. Your freedom is parasitic, you suck the honourable man dry and offer nothing in return. You who have enjoyed freedom, who have done nothing to earn it, your time has come. This time you will stand alone and fight for yourselves. Now you will pay for your freedom in the currency of honest toil and human blood."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Barles View Post
    Since Itachi's love for Sasuke has been consistent even up to this point, it only makes sense given the situation that they fight together, and that they behave like best buds while doing so. They view each other as misguided and tragic, but there's no hatred between the two, only sadness, confusion (for Sasuke), and disappointment (for Itachi). Love is going to outweigh those things though. Based on these things, I think the way they're behaving right now is spot on.
    I agree that it's logical for them to team up, I just don't think they'd be making jokes like it was old times considering Sasuke is a mass murderer now and Itachi is a horrifying, undead mockery of life itself.

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